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Old 05-07-2012, 07:14 AM
 
Location: The 12th State
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Over the weekend, Japan's last remaining nuclear reactor shut down for regular maintenance. In the wake of the Fukushima nuclear disaster, reactors have not been allowed back on. Japan is now the first major economy to see the modern era without nuclear power.

Japan shuts down last nuclear reactor - CNN.com
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:52 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Ironic, considering Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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Old 05-07-2012, 08:05 AM
 
Location: The 12th State
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I thought it might be like an Omen because of those two cities, Japan has a curse.
In reality an island that is in ring of fire prone to earthquakes, nuclear power is a bad idea.
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Oroville, California
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Useless motion. The reactors are still there and still "running". The only difference is they're not contributing to the power grid and they're importing fossil fuel to make up for it.
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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Useless motion. The reactors are still there and still "running". The only difference is they're not contributing to the power grid and they're importing fossil fuel to make up for it.
I would be more impressed if they managed to run their grid without importing fossil fuels and could produce enough power in-house wit renewable resources, which I am sure is a long-term goal. Japan having an increasing demand for fossil fuels can't mean anything good for the already tense disputes over gas fields and shipping lanes in the South China Sea. It will prove to have interesting developments in the coming months.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:01 PM
 
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that is good news. Hope to see the rest of the world follow Japan lead.
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:06 AM
 
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How many people in Japan were killed by radiation leaked from Fukushima? Zero.

According to http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20120507-00000532-san-soci (broken link), 86 people were killed in traffic accidents between 4/29 and 5/6 in Japan, and 86 is the lowest number in 10 years.

Nuclear powers killed 0 people in several decades.

Automobiles killed 86 people in eight days.

Which is more dangerous?

BTW, can anyone translate http://www.ibrae.ac.ru/content/view/590/375/? Someone told me that 50 people were killed by radiation in Chernobyl disaster. What a disaster!
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Old 05-08-2012, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Someone told me that 50 people were killed by radiation in Chernobyl disaster. What a disaster!
The number of excess cancer deaths as a result of the fallout is conservatively estimated at 50,000, with some estimates as high as 200,000, and most of these have not died yet.
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Old 05-09-2012, 05:31 AM
 
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The number of excess cancer deaths as a result of the fallout is conservatively estimated at 50,000, with some estimates as high as 200,000, and most of these have not died yet.
I've found this page from UNSCEAR - United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation: UNSCEAR assessments of the Chernobyl accident
The Chernobyl accident caused many severe radiation effects almost immediately. Of 600 workers present on the site during the early morning of 26 April 1986, 134 received high doses (0.8-16 Gy) and suffered from radiation sickness. Of these, 28 died in the first three months and another 19 died in 1987-2004 of various causes not necessarily associated with radiation exposure.
OK, someone told me 50 people were killed by radiation, which was not ture: 28 + (19 at most) < 50.
By 2005, more than 6,000 thyroid cancer cases had been diagnosed in this group, and it is most likely that a large fraction of these thyroid cancers is attributable to radioiodine intake.
Among the 106 patients surviving radiation sickness, complete normalization of health took several years. Many of those patients developed clinically significant radiation-induced cataracts in the first few years after the accident. Over the period 1987-2006, 19 survivors died for various reasons; however, some of these deaths were due to causes not associated with radiation exposure.
Now let us take a look at List of motor vehicle deaths in U.S. by year
2010: 32,885
2009: 33,808
2008: 37,261
2007: 41,059
2006: 42,642
2005: 43,443

Compare these numbers to "more than 6,000 thyroid cancer cases had been diagnosed".

I wonder which we should call a disaster
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:27 PM
 
Location: God's Gift to Mankind for flying anything
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Someone told me that 50 people were killed by radiation in Chernobyl disaster.
Depends on how you look at it.
If you take the whole world, then close to a million, if you read some reports ...

Directly, immediately after the *oops*, we were about 500 miles away on assignment, around 5000 or so, if I remember right.

Speaking off no power from Japanese reactors, the one in Chernobyl is still *hot*, underneath all that concrete !
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