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Old 08-27-2019, 07:57 PM
 
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This is HUGE news, surprised there's no thread on it. Feel free to discuss.
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Old 08-27-2019, 08:37 PM
 
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It is actually. Rising sea levels due to global warming are going to put a lot of our largest cities in jeopardy. Especially one's where sinking is already an issue. Jakarta is probably just the first notable one, but there will be more. By the time this planet finally gets its collective head on its shoulder regarding this issue, for so many it simply won't be enough.

A 16 year old Swedish Climate activist Greta Thunberg said it best:

“Adults keep saying we owe it to the young people, to give them hope. But I don’t want your hope. I don’t want you to be hopeful. I want you to panic. I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. I want you to act. I want you to act as you would in a crisis. I want you to act as if the house is on fire, because it is.”
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Old 08-27-2019, 08:45 PM
 
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I think it's an interesting plan. If I'm not mistaken, Egypt and Turkey have proposed similar ideas.
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Old 08-27-2019, 09:08 PM
 
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at least they are planning ahead
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Old 08-27-2019, 09:29 PM
 
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The Philippines kinda has a similar plan, except they're calling it a "secondary capital," which will be in Clark, Pampanga- about 100 km North of Metro Manila. It will be connected to Metro Manila via highway and rail. It already has its own international airport. I like this plan because it removes a lot of congestion from Manila but it's still connected to Manila. It's not like they're abandoning Manila, just spreading it out
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Old 08-27-2019, 10:10 PM
 
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This is HUGE news, surprised there's no thread on it. Feel free to discuss.
The location of new capital city will be around Penajam Paser Utara Regency and Kutai Kertanegara Regency. Quite close to 2 main cities in the province, Samarinda and Balikpapan. Each of them has International Airport serving the city that can be upgraded as the main gates to the new capital (IMO building new one will be redundant). Balikpapan and Samarinda has underconstruction expressway that will be completed very soon. In the long run it will be connected to other areas via Trans Kalimantan highway.

Balikpapan-Samarinda Expressway


And I heard neighboring countries, Malaysia and Brunei also focus on building infrastructures in their side of the island. In the future, among the three countries will be connected by railway system.

Indonesia's Trans Kalimantan Railway


Trans Borneo Railway (Indonesia-Malaysia-Brunei)

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Old 08-28-2019, 06:42 AM
 
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Does this move them closer to Sharia Law? I noticed Brunei up there, who do stonings. Myanmar moved their capital, too. Don't hear much positive from expats about living in Indonesia around Bangkok, where I live, and Bali might be well past it's prime.
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Old 08-28-2019, 06:52 AM
 
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It is actually. Rising sea levels due to global warming are going to put a lot of our largest cities in jeopardy. Especially one's where sinking is already an issue. Jakarta is probably just the first notable one, but there will be more. By the time this planet finally gets its collective head on its shoulder regarding this issue, for so many it simply won't be enough.

A 16 year old Swedish Climate activist Greta Thunberg said it best:

“Adults keep saying we owe it to the young people, to give them hope. But I don’t want your hope. I don’t want you to be hopeful. I want you to panic. I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. I want you to act. I want you to act as you would in a crisis. I want you to act as if the house is on fire, because it is.”

Given that Obama just bought a $15 million ocean water front estate after 8 years of global warming doom mongering somehow I don't think we should take "rising sea levels" too seriously. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...roperties.html

Most likely the reason for the capital move is same as when Brazil moved their capital to Brasilia, the local region was too overcrowded which made further expansion expensive and difficult. In addition it (theoretically) helps to spread the wealth a bit to poorer inland communities.
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Old 08-28-2019, 09:08 PM
 
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all who work in government agencies will move to Kalimantan/Borneo, are they strong living in distant places that are not as complete as like Jakarta ... there are many pros and cons about this, we hope to realize the plan to move the capital to Kalimantan or Borneo ... Jakarta is already densely populated
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Old 08-29-2019, 01:21 AM
 
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Does this move them closer to Sharia Law? I noticed Brunei up there, who do stonings.
Not really. Kalimantan is diverse in term of religions.
Anyway, I don't get the over dramatic response for such law. Just respect, know the boundaries, and you'll be fine.

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Myanmar moved their capital, too. Don't hear much positive from expats about living in Indonesia around Bangkok, where I live, and Bali might be well past it's prime.
Indonesia tourism industry has been growing pretty fast for the past few years. And contrary to popular belief, Indonesia is much safer than many developed countries. And is safer than Thailand in general. So yeah, depends on your mindset. If having Moslem standing next to you freaks you out, Indonesia is not for you.
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