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Defeating foolishness is more important, whether with a Christian, atheist, Jehovah's Witness, or any other group of belief. It is the idea(s) that matter, not the person. We're all made of the same flesh and blood; all of the same species.
Attacking people serves no healthiness or good in the world.
Defeating foolishness is more important, whether with a Christian, atheist, Jehovah's Witness, or any other group of belief. It is the idea(s) that matter, not the person.
We're all made of the same flesh and blood; all of the same species. Attacking and/or "defeating" people serves no healthiness or good in the world.
Once someone wants to defeat someone else, they've instantly lowered themselves. Before saying a word, they are showing his or herself to be petty and shallow.
Sometimes you cannot separate the fool from the foolishness and both need defeating.
The "we are all one" business works fine until there is conflict, and then sides materialize. The tendency of humans to support the familiar, the "home team" so to speak, flies in the face world peace philosophies. To eliminate such tendencies would require re-engineering humans so that their emotional reactions would always be subordinate to their logical ones. And that might not be a fun world.
Some see the world and the meaning of life as 'one person against another'. That's the point I was making. They don't try to separate the person from the idea. If the person is infected, so to speak, it still goes back to the root/originating idea. So separating the idea from the person is the all-important first step. If you don't do that, you'll be stuck in the dog eat dog mentality.
That's what also breeds racism, separatism, nationalism, culturalism, etc. The differences between us - ultimately in the mind - are shifted to physical and material differences, such as person's race and ethnicity, regionality, and appearance.
The time it takes is inversely proportional to the amount the atheists hates religion. The more an atheists has to change science to get away from religion the faster we prove that denomination of atheism wrong.
The more an atheists has to change science to get away from religion the faster we prove that denomination of atheism wrong.
Getting away from religion has never been a scientific goal. It is a side effect. The Big Bang theory was crafted as a response to the evidence available, not as a deliberate project designed to overthrow Genesis. Carbon dating is based on the known decay rates of the radioactivity of certain carbon isotopes. It was crafted to determine the age of organic matter, not to spoil a specific Biblical timetable.
Science didn't set out to make an enemy of religion, it set out to make the best determination of truth available. What they found has made religion start treating them like they are the enemy.
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well, actually, we can tell a lot about a person by how they describe the bible. foaming at the mouth and googly eyes tells us a lot.
We can tell a lot about you by how you describe atheists and atheism.
You don't? With your PHD?
As it ever been a god? No.
Like you, I just have my opinion. How exactly do you KNOW it has not ever been a God?
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The first is just redefining the word god, and the second may be true, but we have no evidence for it, and logically no need for it.
You have the order wrong. Until science, it has always BEEN God. The religious autocrats and their horrendous benighted treatment of the progenitors of science forced the creation of the term Nature to avoid their religious authoritarianism. The label God does not necessarily add anything that needs additional evidence and is no different than the label natural.
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Good, as no one is pretending that.
Yes, you are pretending that when you default to the label Nature or natural laws AS IF they explain anything different from a reference to God and God's laws.
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