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Short of killing all the faithful, I don't see how we can "keep religion out of daily life." Before going further, perhaps some definitions, particularly of what is meant by "daily life" would be in order.
I'm for keeping religion out of government, and we have the backing of the first amendment for that. But keeping it out of daily life? How is that different from simply persecuting the religious until they renounce their faith?
I keep it out of my own daily life by not being religious and not attending any religious oriented events. I don't raise it as a subject when talking with people I don't know well. None of my really close friends are believers, so there is no problem there.
I'm for keeping religion out of government, and we have the backing of the first amendment for that. But keeping it out of daily life? How is that different from simply persecuting the religious until they renounce their faith?
Now there's a plan! After all, the Christians have made good use of doing that over the last 2000 years. It's certainly worked for them.
the vid that was posted (maybe I can find it again) said that it wasn't imposition or coercion but education.
what makes us think that it falls to us to educate anyone? Because we have the better case. That's what wining here is about - not Ego or bragging or Flag -waving; just knowing that the Religion case can't stand up to it.
So what we do is keep talking. Wider, on the internet and yet more Atheist TV (I believe there are two channels now) and let people make up their minds.
I don't think it is for us to go into the family. Society has to change and then the family will change, too.
So here's one of mine for the very near future. I'm moving to Phoenix about a month from now, and I'm going to look up local groups that support atheism and join ones I feel comfortable with. In addition to more formal groups, there are also many listed in meetup.com.
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Well, if you're trying to keep Religion from being a part of your daily life, I'd suggest limiting your exposure to intentionally debating with Christians online. That would be a start. You seem to spend a great deal of your free time on here, exposing yourself to Christian beliefs on purpose.
Also, maybe an atheist meet up isn't a great idea - again, you'd be spending your time very conscious of religion, which you claim to be trying to avoid, and likely making jeering remarks about those who have faith reminding yourself the whole meet up of the very thing you state you wish to not come in contact with.
I myself don't really care for football. I think interest in it is overblown, and i think it's really, really boring. And UT football colors are ugly, and you really see them everywhere around here.
So as a result I don't spend my free time on football websites, and I wouldn't join an anti football meetup where we all discuss that we don't care for football, and specifically what we dislike about it.
If you're sincerely trying to reduce your exposure to something in your life, OP, you have the oddest way of going about it. A bit like a moth to the flame, if you ask me.
Well, if you're trying to keep Religion from being a part of your daily life, I'd suggest limiting your exposure to intentionally debating with Christians online. That would be a start. You seem to spend a great deal of your free time on here, exposing yourself to Christian beliefs on purpose.
Also, maybe an atheist meet up isn't a great idea - again, you'd be spending your time very conscious of religion, which you claim to be trying to avoid, and likely making jeering remarks about those who have faith reminding yourself the whole meet up of the very thing you state you wish to not come in contact with.
I myself don't really care for football. I think interest in it is overblown, and i think it's really, really boring. And UT football colors are ugly, and you really see them everywhere around here.
So as a result I don't spend my free time on football websites, and I wouldn't join an anti football meetup where we all discuss that we don't care for football, and specifically what we dislike about it.
If you're sincerely trying to reduce your exposure to something in your life, OP, you have the oddest way of going about it. A bit like a moth to the flame, if you ask me.
Then let me rephrase it: keep it out of daily American life.
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Then let me rephrase it: keep it out of daily American life.
I guess what other people do isn't really under your control. For example, I wish I could walk into HEB on football game days and not see all that burnt orange all over the place.
But really, it's not my business how others choose to run their lives, is it?
It seems really very controlling that you want to keep any mention of Christianity out of the county, but you spend really a GREAT deal of your time purposely placing yourself in the company of very vocal Christians.
I guess what other people do isn't really under your control. For example, I wish I could walk into HEB on football game days and not see all that burnt orange all over the place.
But really, it's not my business how others choose to run their lives, is it?
It seems really very controlling that you want to keep any mention of Christianity out of the county, but you spend really a GREAT deal of your time purposely placing yourself in the company of very vocal Christians.
Kind of odd, that.
Oh my...you're comparing the importance of football colors to religion?
Well, through your preaching here, you seem to be suggesting to others how they should live their lives.
You're free to worship in your home. You're free to worship in your church. No problem with any of that.
And here you are in the atheism/agnosticism part of the forum.
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Oh my...you're comparing the importance of football colors to religion?
Well, through your preaching here, you seem to be suggesting to others how they should live their lives.
You're free to worship in your home. You're free to worship in your church. No problem with any of that.
And here you are in the atheism/agnosticism part of the forum.
I'm free to worship on the street corner, and in the mall, also.
And I'm not the one saying please, please spare me from frank discussions about religion, and spare me atheists.
You are the one who, seemingly, doesn't appear to understand that much of your contact with the religious is your own purposeful doing.
If you would like not to be reminded that there are Christians in the world, and in the country, maybe best to not put yourself in our near constant presence?
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