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Fascinating site and some very scary facts and statistics. It really does make you think that rational thinking can save your life ! Great website Troop !
I would take issue with some herbal remedies and homeopathy issues though, my great grand mother was a wondrous source of herbal remedies and they worked pretty darn well , I don't think she had any claims to curing cancer but if you had a cold or twisted an ankle she did a lot better than over the counter medicine.
As someone who constantly bruises for example, Arnica cream is more effective than any pills any doctor has ever given me and it prevents the formation of bad bruising if applied immediately. I have taken some homeopathic remedies for various ailments, the majority did not work but a couple did wonders notably after having a wisdom tooth extracted.
I think a lot of alternative medicine is just old fashioned medicine, and herbs are after all still a huge component of modern drugs so I would not be too quick in throwing the baby out with the bath water. Aspirin is after all very little more than white birch bark and people all over the world have known its uses for centuries and used it accordingly. The Rainforest is being exploited for its wondrous plants which will probably form the mainstream of future cures fr various illnesses and diseases.
I think a lot of alternative medicine is a lot of hooey too but not all of it. Some of it ALONG modern medicine has its merits as long as it is not a replacement for the more conventional medicine. I also think that we take far too many drugs and chemicals and that occasionally turning for more natural things is not always bad.
That said there is a vast industry of charlatans who deserve pillorying for abusing people at their most vulnerable. Basically though I think one can more "alternative" and still use reason. My great-grand mother was also a wondrous bone-setter by the way and did it to me when I damaged my wrist. Very effective.
Brilliant site though, a real mind and eye opener.
I have a feeling that the site will appeal to those who already use their critical thinking skills (and already don't fall victim to any of those "dangers") and will be completely lost on those who don't understand or use their critical thinking skills. Is it possible to scare someone into thinking critically?
Both my Mother and StepFather say that if they come down with a serious illness like cancer they'll refuse to go to a regular doctor and use what is considered the most effective treatments because they don't trust them. Instead they'll use some sort of alternative medicine and I doubt if it would be one of the more credible ones. I know that they've been using one product for several years and the guy who manufactures this stuff is considered a con artist by law enforcement, has no medical training, and they've been trying to shut down his various operations which are now located in Utah. Thankfully they're both in their late 70's and healthy but I dread the thought of how they'd handle a serious life threatening emergency.
Why are products like this allowed to be sold, and why are some men stupid enough to buy into their ridiculous claims?..Their barrage of late night TV adds drives me insane!
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Truly very sad, GCST, but I'm afraid you'll get the "God has plans for all of these poor children in heaven" line. Which does conclusively make your thread point I'd say.
One assumes those would be the same plans he has for limb amputees or people who lose an eye in an accident, even though these sufferers might be fervently praying and devout Christians. Even their congregation prays for them.
Can you imagine a person more deserving than, say, a young US Army Iraqi veteran who lost his or her leg to a "godless Heathen Islamic Fundamentalist". Back home this person's a member of the local Southern Baptist Church, and his family has been the same for generations. They all fervently pray till blood's being squeezed from their hands, and yet...
Tough luck, veteran. But let's all praise the Lord that the Smiths' mortgage went through.
Just ONE video and medical doctor-witnessed divine intervention amputeed leg regeneration following a prayer-fest, and both you and I would be down there mowing the Church lawn every weekend. That's all... just one!
Meantime, some Christians pray to God that their new home mortgage application will go through, or that the infection in little Fido's stiff front paw will heal up soon, and when these things happen, they're convinced it was a MIRACLE!!!.
And again, meantime, the sightless or legless stagger along, wondering just what wonderful things are in store for them in the promised afterlife.
I wonder why they don't toss themselves off a bridge, with their local pastor's gleeful and prayerful assistance.
First off.. kudoes to atheism and agnosticism. I'm there.
Second- I haven't seen anything on "what's the harm" that I disagree with.
Here's the uncomfortable part. I'm a Rolfer.
I adamantly DISAGREE that what we do has anything to do with "energy medicine" I want bloody nothing to do with homeopathy (can I get in on the expensive water franchise? and spend it on public education? Oh, the conflict!!)
I'm just a freakin' mechanic, and due to my colleague's all too frequent indulgence in various nonsensical adventures, we are branded as flakes!
It makes me crazy.
I am not sightless, nor legless. There is no promised land, only a vast untilled field of people with simple mechanical musculoskeletal problems watching ads on TV my association is too codependent and stoned out to participate in, pay attention to or even try to manipulate.
There ain't no GD miracles.. I worked on an Army post for six long, traumatic, adventurous, ballstothewall years, and I got popular with Seal Team 10, the Marines, and retired and ruined Army Ranger Scouts.
Because I can get there in a very simple, basic, fix-the-problem way in the human body.
Problem is, we got no stockholders.
Meanwhile, here I am practicing Laying On of Hands as ol' Hey-Soos did (I'm from Tejas) and even the prostitutes are wary.
I can make it work, and I can prove it.
Back surgery is considered a success if pain is gone for three years, never mind the 60% who still hurt after.
No one teaches them to use their body better.
Do yoga (if you can find a non-namaste class), do Pilates. Find a Feldenkrais practicioner.
If you find a Rolfer™, interrogate them thoroughly.
There's no money in the teaching paradigm.
There's a lot, in the dependence paradigm.
Keep an eye on that, in your belief systems.
-Edge
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Tragic!
