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Old 09-02-2009, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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Anyone who thinks that Stein is an advocate of science or even competent in the subject should read this quote:

Newsvine - Ben Stein: Science = Murder
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Old 09-02-2009, 09:36 PM
 
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Anyone who thinks that Stein is an advocate of science or even competent in the subject should read this quote:

Newsvine - Ben Stein: Science = Murder

Ask his opinion about health care. Then confirm that his religion does not equal politics.
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I don't know what is the deal with the Ben Stein, because he sounds like a reasonable man, but apparently he chooses to support religious side (Jewish and Christian). Most likely he calculated that it will bring him more $$.
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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Yes, I think his statement clearly identifies him as a stupid person.
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Yes, I think his statement clearly identifies him as a stupid person.
It's more than that though, Ben Stein is being willfully ignorant, which is something i absolutely abhor.
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Old 09-05-2009, 04:04 AM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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Ah-hem:

"Stein was the commencement speaker for the Liberty University 2009 graduation on Saturday, May 9, at Williams Stadium. [7] At this ceremony, the University awarded him an honorary degree. According to the school, Stein "delivered a message of creationism, patriotism and value for humanity to graduates and their families."[8]"

Ben Stein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That speaks volumes about who Ben Stein really is. Liberty University fercrissakes. Oy.
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Old 09-05-2009, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Perhaps it's just me but I've always suspected that places like The Discovery Institute and Answers in Genesis are up to more than just spreading lies and misinformation about actual science. I truly suspect that they offer large sums of money to people with advanced college degrees and other spokespersons of intelligence to lie for their cause.

Looking back at the history of the Creationist movement and prior to their court losses in the 80's and in 2001, the vast majority of their movement was comprised of people holding degrees from "degree mills" and the like.

As the public became more aware of their non-scientific approach to things, I think it became necessary to hire people with actual degrees and doctorates, as well as publicly known spokespersons of "intelligence."

My bet is that those actual "scientists" (by credential) who are on the payroll make much more money working for these places than they do as actual scientists. It takes a lot of money to convince someone to stand up in front of the public in order to promote something they know is not true. Yet, everyone has their price.

Ben Stein was a part-time contributor to the New York Times for quite a while. My honest guess is that he was approached by one (or both) of these organizations to become a spokesman for their Jesus smut and offered a substantial sum of money to do so.

Personally, I don't think Ben Stein thinks that "science equals murder" or that he even believes in Creationism or Intelligent Design (though it is possible). I actually think he's sold his public image for a pretty substantial amount of money. I think that's what the majority of the "scientists" affiliated with those places have done. They're merely willing to take the brunt of the public ridicule sent their way in exchange for money.
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:04 PM
 
Location: An absurd world.
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Yes, I think his statement clearly identifies him as a stupid person.
As if he hasn't already said stupid things in the past.
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:33 PM
 
Location: South Florida
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I saw Ben Stein on Hannity a while back. There were discussing the existence of god. Ben's remark to Hannity is a classic, "Have you ever seen a sunset in Manhattan? Come on, there has to be a god!" Nice arguement, Ben.
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Metromess
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As Bugs Bunny used to say, "What a maroon". Which is a polite way of saying 'moron'.
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