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Old 01-14-2011, 06:58 PM
 
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If you are a salary worker and your office was closed due to the storm are you getting your full salary? Do you have to use personal/sick or vacation time for the days off?
We are debating what's legal. In a private business not a government/state job.
Can your (salary) pay be docked or can you be forced to use vacation days if you were told not to come in/the office is closed?
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:10 PM
 
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If you are a salary worker and your office was closed due to the storm are you getting your full salary? Do you have to use personal/sick or vacation time for the days off?
We are debating what's legal. In a private business not a government/state job.
Can your (salary) pay be docked or can you be forced to use vacation days if you were told not to come in/the office is closed?
What's legal? I don't have to pay you at all for work you did not do. If the office was open and you didn't make it, I can not pay you without any legal problems at all OR pay you but charge it against one of your paid time off days. Or, still being legal, I can fire you.
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:11 PM
 
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I'd say you should not get paid if you didn't work.
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:18 PM
 
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Probably depends on the size of the company. I'm not gonna debate the merits of whether or not it's right for companies to give administrative leave.

I will simply say that if employers don't see any obligation in compensating their employees for being out on snow days then they (the employers) should be equally willing to sacrifice their own unearned benefits as well.

But I won't hold my breath waiting for THAT to happen...

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If you are a salary worker and your office was closed due to the storm are you getting your full salary? Do you have to use personal/sick or vacation time for the days off?
We are debating what's legal. In a private business not a government/state job.
Can your (salary) pay be docked or can you be forced to use vacation days if you were told not to come in/the office is closed?
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Brambleton, VA
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It depends on your company. If my office closes, we still get paid regardless and don't have to take vacation days because my department does not allow for us to be assigned laptops. So, we can't actually work at home. But, if a company does assign laptops, you can work from home then you should. If you refuse to, or don't then you should absolutely be expected to use vacation or sick time. If I could have worked all the days my office has been closed due to inclement weather, I sure would have but we handle sensitive information and the powers that be decided that it wasn't necessary to be able to do our work remotely. We certainly didn't miss the amount of days I heard most in the Atlanta area did, but it makes me wonder if a lot of companies will rethink their telecommuting optoins for employees in the future.

I think that the situation in Atlanta probably will never happen again after all the criticism about their response to just a few inches of snow. It is still amazing to think that so little snow shut down a city for nearly a week! I would have been such a happy kid growing up because we would have had snow days all the time. We only got them when we had a few feet of snow!
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:39 PM
 
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What's legal? I don't have to pay you at all for work you did not do. If the office was open and you didn't make it, I can not pay you without any legal problems at all OR pay you but charge it against one of your paid time off days. Or, still being legal, I can fire you.
The office was NOT open. The choice to close was made by the company owners
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:41 PM
 
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I'd say you should not get paid if you didn't work.
What about the overtime hours I work with no additional salary?
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:46 PM
 
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Probably depends on the size of the company. I'm not gonna debate the merits of whether or not it's right for companies to give administrative leave.

I will simply say that if employers don't see any obligation in compensating their employees for being out on snow days then they (the employers) should be equally willing to sacrifice their own unearned benefits as well.

But I won't hold my breath waiting for THAT to happen...
I get that times are tough for small businesses, but if I'm expected to work overtime if needed with no additional pay I feel like if I work less hours I should still get a full salary. To me that's a benefit of being salary over hourly
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Old 01-14-2011, 07:52 PM
 
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It depends on your company. If my office closes, we still get paid regardless and don't have to take vacation days because my department does not allow for us to be assigned laptops. So, we can't actually work at home. But, if a company does assign laptops, you can work from home then you should. If you refuse to, or don't then you should absolutely be expected to use vacation or sick time. If I could have worked all the days my office has been closed due to inclement weather, I sure would have but we handle sensitive information and the powers that be decided that it wasn't necessary to be able to do our work remotely. We certainly didn't miss the amount of days I heard most in the Atlanta area did, but it makes me wonder if a lot of companies will rethink their telecommuting optoins for employees in the future.

I think that the situation in Atlanta probably will never happen again after all the criticism about their response to just a few inches of snow. It is still amazing to think that so little snow shut down a city for nearly a week! I would have been such a happy kid growing up because we would have had snow days all the time. We only got them when we had a few feet of snow!
we were told to monitor our emails/voicemails from home, problem was EVERYTHING was closed so we really didn't have to do anything

We'll get another storm like this in 5 or 10 years, and everyone will react the same way lol. It really doesn't pay for the state to buy equipment for a storm that comes every few years
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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If you are a salary worker and your office was closed due to the storm are you getting your full salary? Do you have to use personal/sick or vacation time for the days off?
We are debating what's legal. In a private business not a government/state job.
Can your (salary) pay be docked or can you be forced to use vacation days if you were told not to come in/the office is closed?
We just telecommuted in my office, but I see no reason why an employer couldn't force people to take vacation or even unpaid time if you didn't have any vacation left. It might not be nice, but neither are a lot of businesses.
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