11-29-2011, 10:23 AM
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I'm not going to argue over technicalities. I already clarified that I wasn't referring to Gangsta Rap as a sub-genre. I refered to it as gangsta to avoid using "ghetto," with all the B.S. that entails.
Lil Scrappy's style is more accurately categorized as "crunk" which is more about club/party hits. That's where Atlanta's rap scene gained prominence in the first decade of this century (and to a certain extent still is) with artists like Lil Jon & the Eastside Boyz, Ying Yang Twins, and Soulja Boy.
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But I would argue that Gangsta Rap is actually more positive than ghetto hip hop. At least Dr. Dre had an underlying purpose (rebel against authority); Scrappy is just some dumba** bragging about how ghetto he is. Dr. Dre and the like glorify weed; Scrappy seems to be more interested in crack.
Interesting perspective. I was never, ever a fan of gangsta rap and the crunk stuff is only good for partying. No one really takes the lyrics seriously. It's not like we're talking about artists more known for their lyrics (like OutKast) when it comes to that subgenre.
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And he is talking about Atlanta as a whole, not the neighborhood where he's from (unless you consider Decatur, Bankhead, and South DeKalb to be the same neighborhood).
Point taken.
11-29-2011, 10:43 AM
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Anyone thinking Atlanta doesn't have real gangsta rap needs to read up on those dudes/hip hop collective walking around with duck shirts on. Look and sounds like gangsta rap to me.
11-29-2011, 11:03 AM
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I would disagree. I'm referring to a lyrical style, not a genre. Atlanta was continuously rapped about in songs that had a definite criminal element in the lyrics. Take "F.I.L.A. (Forever I love Atlanta)" by Lil' Scrappy:
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I'm a Grady Baby ATL,
and all my life duh avis so crunk as hell
you dont' wanna step to close or go to far
cuz where i'm from shawdy nigg*s beat you down wit they cars.
Fila brought up from my head to my feet,
nigg*s on the block wit the rock they don't sleep.
Man, South dekalb mall be the crunkiest ****,
uh you can roll through bankhead and go to fall on a *****
i'm a giant ass playa i'll stomp on a hater
i'ma pop the **** off in zone 3, the decatur
we can go back down to where my grandma stay,
depending on the area you better watch what you say
and i 'on care if you over there lookin all crazy
when i get locked up man them broads wanna save me
this the home ass whoopin biscuit in and the j's on the street charge mo' than a penny A!
Knowing this crowd, I bet someone will chime in and say that this is a positive portrayal of Atlanta.
Failed............. Know why because lil scrappy's genre of music is call Crunk music.
It's the rap version of heavy metal or punk music. Crunk music is known for satire anger.... the angry lyrics is to incite energy, pump up and bring out at marsh pit. Rappers in this genre will rap about how much tougher they are and technically how they say is more important then what they actually say notice how repetitive it is. Crunk music is consider a club type of rap music. Dude said
"i'm a giant ass playa i'll stomp on a hater" and
"cuz where i'm from shawdy nigg*s beat you down wit they cars." but your talking this seriously.
This is what happen when someone post something they don't know about. Everyone here's the song.
And to make so bad this was not even a popular song outside of Atlanta.
Lil Scrappy feat. Lil Jon - F.I.L.A. (Forever I Love Atlanta) - YouTube
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muxBuppie
Anyone thinking Atlanta doesn't have real gangsta rap needs to read up on those dudes/hip hop collective walking around with duck shirts on. Look and sounds like gangsta rap to me.
So dudes walking around is music now.
Also that because anything that has swearing in is gangsta rap to you and BBC.
Sad yall need to learn what's playing the dozens and Signifyin is.
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11-29-2011, 11:51 AM
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WOW...Really?....It really IS NOT a color thing but as someone who has been places/lived places, I can and will say this: The person whom made the comment you are referring to was correct. Snobby is snobby no matter the color/creed. And if you wanna call out "Wealthy Black Atlantians" for not knowing how to act then you can SURELY do the same for the others of different racial/ethnic backgrounds bothe here and abroad. Extreme shallowness has no prejudice cheif....
Being cultured enough to know what wines are appropriate for what activity doesn't make me shallow. People who would drink a wine just because a rapper told them to are the shallow ones.
This thread isn't about whites. As a black man, I was more directly in touch with what "we" were doing, while I was living in Atlanta. I am simply pointing out my disdain for the pretensiousness and lack of substance and true worldliness in Atlanta's younger affluent black community.
11-29-2011, 01:08 PM
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Being cultured enough to know what wines are appropriate for what activity doesn't make me shallow. People who would drink a wine just because a rapper told them to are the shallow ones.
A lot of wine aficionados would say the whole notion of what wine is "appropriate" for a given occasion is pretty artificial. As one who has been in the business and consumed many barrels of wine over the decades, I can tell you that the only "rules" for understanding good wine are:
(a) Ignore the price. It's a fallacy to believe that you need to spend a bunch of money to get a great wine. Real connoisseurs are always in search of bargains, and finding them is the mark of true expertise. Fortunately, there are thousands of fantastic wines at very reasonable prices.
(b) Don't worry about what's "right" -- the only test is what you like.
(c) Drink a lot of wine and make some notes so that you'll know what you like.
(d) Enjoy!
11-29-2011, 01:42 PM
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A lot of wine aficionados would say the whole notion of what wine is "appropriate" for a given occasion is pretty artificial. As one who has been in the business and consumed many barrels of wine over the decades, I can tell you that the only "rules" for understanding good wine are:
(a) Ignore the price. It's a fallacy to believe that you need to spend a bunch of money to get a great wine. Real connoisseurs are always in search of bargains, and finding them is the mark of true expertise. Fortunately, there are thousands of fantastic wines at very reasonable prices.
(b) Don't worry about what's "right" -- the only test is what you like.
(c) Drink a lot of wine and make some notes so that you'll know what you like.
(d) Enjoy!
The taste of moscato fits with desserts, but it's suddenly become popular to consume it with foods like lobster and steak; foods that it clashes with. I'll never understand how it became a party drink either.
If you're someone who simply has a genuine enjoyment for the taste of a certain wine, then by all means, drink away. I just have a problem with people who drink it and think they're doing something hip and classy.
11-29-2011, 02:17 PM
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Oh, is THAT why I've been seeing moscato everywhere? Should've known there was some rapper involved.
11-29-2011, 04:31 PM
Location: Savannah GA
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I can't believe a bunch of black guys are on here arguing about the appropriatenss of what wines to drink, and Mad Dog 20/20 is nowhere in the conversation! LOL. Look how far we've come!
11-29-2011, 08:43 PM
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There are some excellent muscats out there but many are poorly made and as sweet as soda pop. To me muscat is an acquired taste.
11-29-2011, 09:25 PM
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There are some excellent muscats out there but many are poorly made and as sweet as soda pop. To me muscat is an acquired taste.
They're mostly so low in alcohol that they hardly count as an alcoholic drink.
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People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)