02-24-2012, 03:04 PM
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Since the other thread about this was closed, here's an update with a potential twist on the story of the young gay dude who was assaulted in Pittsburgh. I guess the entire truth will come out eventually.
Members of Atlanta's gay community: Brandon White lied - CBS Atlanta 46
ATLANTA (CBS ATLANTA) -
Members of Change Atlanta, a gay rights organization, have Tough Questions for Brandon White.
White is the 20-year old Atlanta man who was beaten by three men outside a neighborhood store in Atlanta's Pittsburgh community on Feb. 4. While the men were beating White, they yelled gay slurs at him.
Devin Ward was among the first in the community to speak out against the beating. Ward said he supported White when he first saw the beating video on TV. He thought the three men beat White because he is gay. But Ward said now he doesn't believe that's the case.
"If indeed this is shown to be truthful in that Brandon did have prior interaction with these young men, Brandon needs to come forward and make his wrong wright," Ward said.
Terik Jackson is also with Change Atlanta.
"In the beginning we thought this was a random attack because Brandon was gay, because of his sexual orientation. The video did depict that there were some slurs that were used," Jackson said.
When White spoke publicly for the first time after the beating, he told reporters he did not know his attackers.
"I have never seen those guys before. I go to that store plenty times. I don't bother anybody I don't talk to anybody. No, I have never seen those guys before," White said.
Several days after the attack, police arrested Dorian Moragne, Christopher Cain and Dareal Williams.
Gary Nichols said he and several other members of the community searched for White's attackers before they were arrested.
NIchols said when they interviewed witnesses and those in the Pittsburgh community who know White and his alleged attackers, he found out new details about White's prior relationship with some of his attackers.
"I would tell the Atlanta community we were duped. We were all duped and it's a shame. It's a bitter shame," Nichols said.
Nichols said the attack was not a hate crime. The motivation was revenge.
"Brandon was agitating these young men about personally exposing them for being DL gay - on the down low possibly gay. The young men responded because they don't want their families to know," Nichols said.
Jackson said he spoke directly with one of the suspects, Dorian Moragne, who also confirmed that they knew White.
"He was very clear about being sure that Brandon White in fact knew the other attackers in question," Jackson said.
Jackson and Nichols said the attack was centered around a video that's supposed to be on White's phone. The video of the attack shows one of the men grab White's phone.
"It's a video of somebody performing a sexual act with one or a few of these young men," Nichols said.
"That's why the cell phone was a target. They didn't just beat him up because he was gay," Jackson said.
Atlanta Police is still investigating the beating. A spokesman said whether or not White knew his attackers will not affect their case. A crime was still committed. The FBI is investigating as to whether or not a hate crime was committed.
"It's very important that we know the truth and the community deserves to know the truth," Jackson said.
CBS Atlanta tried to contact White through his attorney, but she did not return our call.
02-24-2012, 03:54 PM
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so it's not a hate crime b/c it's gay on gay crime? LOL, I knew it! It's only a hate crime if White people are involved
02-24-2012, 04:09 PM
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so it's not a hate crime b/c it's gay on gay crime? LOL, I knew it! It's only a hate crime if White people are involved
Ain't that the truth.......I wonder if the FBI will get involved if I get beat up...LOL
02-24-2012, 04:21 PM
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so it's not a hate crime b/c it's gay on gay crime? LOL, I knew it! It's only a hate crime if White people are involved
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Ain't that the truth.......I wonder if the FBI will get involved if I get beat up...LOL
WTF? And how do your comments even fit into this story? Poor little persecuted white men. And that's all the reaction you're getting from me.
02-24-2012, 04:29 PM
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WTF? And how do your comments even fit into this story? Poor little persecuted white men. And that's all the reaction you're getting from me.
They dont...at all. Just their usual trolling.
02-24-2012, 06:25 PM
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WTF? And how do your comments even fit into this story? Poor little persecuted white men. And that's all the reaction you're getting from me.
Don't you find it amusing that almost all of the "hate crime" prosecutions and hysteria revolve around "people of color" and gays. For instance....when groups of black "youts" at the Wisconsin State Fair start "wilding" and beating only white folks....while by-passing black folks, its not a "hate crime"......and now that this is a "gay on gay" case in Atlanta all the hysteria goes away. Its just amusing....that's all. By the way...are there any "love crimes"?
Why don't we just prosecute all crimes in the same way.....an assualt is an assault isn't it?
Police Say Incidents at Wisc State Fair Will Not Be Prosecuted as ‘Hate Crimes’ | TheBlaze.com
02-24-2012, 06:28 PM
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They dont...at all. Just their usual trolling.
And you, as usual, not adding anything to the discussion.......
02-24-2012, 07:35 PM
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Don't you find it amusing that almost all of the "hate crime" prosecutions and hysteria revolve around "people of color" and gays. For instance....when groups of black "youts" at the Wisconsin State Fair start "wilding" and beating only white folks....while by-passing black folks, its not a "hate crime"......and now that this is a "gay on gay" case in Atlanta all the hysteria goes away. Its just amusing....that's all. By the way...are there any "love crimes"?
Why don't we just prosecute all crimes in the same way.....an assualt is an assault isn't it?
Police Say Incidents at Wisc State Fair Will Not Be Prosecuted as ‘Hate Crimes’ | TheBlaze.com
How is a gay guy attacking and using anti gay slurs to a gay guy a hate crime?
As far as young black people attacking whites, how is that a hate crime if no indication of racial targeting was used? Did they call them racial names? Did they indicate they hated white people? I know you won't answer though.
02-24-2012, 07:36 PM
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so it's not a hate crime b/c it's gay on gay crime? LOL, I knew it! It's only a hate crime if White people are involved
How is it a hate crime if a gay attacks and uses anti gay slurs to another gay?
02-24-2012, 08:23 PM
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Sounds about right to me!
This makes far more sense than the random targeting of a 'gay' man here in Atlanta of all places. As much as people tend to complain about tolerance issues around metro Atlanta, there's an intricate cultural balancing act of sorts which takes place here, and incidents of this nature are anything but commonplace.
Brandon likely started flappin' his chops and or sharing excerpts of his coveted conquest (simply couldn't resist I'd imagine), then when things starting leaking, the scorned and embarrassed suspect initiated damage control my bashing him in front of traffic while seizing the evidence!
This also explains why the victim was so apprehensive about coming forward to report the incident to the proper authorities. The viscous attack was horrible to witness, but the unedited version makes perfect sense and sounds about right to me!
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People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Why don't we just prosecute all crimes in the same way.....an assualt is an assault isn't it? 
Sounds about right to me!
