Why do Atlanta drivers keep going the wrong way on highway/interstate on ramps? (car insurance, loan)

[NativeJr]

In the news yesterday, the surviving victim of the GA400 wrong way accident said the bar was to blame. She sais they should have kept her keys. The bar evidently took the keys and gave them to sober friend who drove them off the property. The "friend" drove them to a gas station and turned the car back over to them. Then, they drove around Atlanta for an hour looking for the highway trying to find their way home. She evidently does not blame the sober "friend" for turning the car back over to the drunk driver.

The lack of personal responsibility and then the audacity to blame someone else for you mistakes speaks volumes.

If this is how she thinks sober, imagine her thought processes when she is drunk. Then you can begin to understand why this happens.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/f...passeng/nRP3Z/

[MRFLASHPORT]

Originally Posted by NativeJr

In the news yesterday, the surviving victim of the GA400 wrong way accident said the bar was to blame. She sais they should have kept her keys. The bar evidently took the keys and gave them to sober friend who drove them off the property. The "friend" drove them to a gas station and turned the car back over to them. Then, they drove around Atlanta for an hour looking for the highway trying to find their way home. She evidently does not blame the sober "friend" for turning the car back over to the drunk driver.

The lack of personal responsibility and then the audacity to blame someone else for you mistakes speaks volumes.

If this is how she thinks sober, imagine her thought processes when she is drunk. Then you can begin to understand why this happens.

Family of dead man blames wrong-way driver, passenger | www.ajc.com

She needs to practice her right to remain silent. She essentially just ratted out her "friend" who committed a crime by knowingly allowed another drunk to operate a motor vehicle. The bar and the FCSO deputy working security did everything in their power to reasonably ensure that the two women, who were intoxicated, did not drive by taking the keys and giving them to a sober driver, and witnessing that person leave their property.

It was this "third party" who chose to then give the keys to an intoxicated person in that vehicle, and allow them to drive it. It was this "third party" who NEEDS TO BE CHARGED with vehicular homicide for the death of Mr. Eric Hanks, who died because of the actions of this "third party".

I find it outrageous and ridiculous that this woman in the interview thinks that anyone else but her friend and the unnamed third party is culpable for this incident. Furthermore, maybe it's just me, but if you have young children, why are you out drinking and partying on a weeknight? Sounds like a job for DFACS.

Her attitude is typical of young people with poor parenting. Zero responsibility and zero accountability. Zero remorse to the innocent victim of this murder by vehicle. Hopefully APD or the FC DA's office will pursue charges against these cretins for their criminally negligent actions.

I really feel for the fiance of Mr. Hanks, two weeks prior she was shopping for a wedding and bridesmaid dresses, then she has to plan for a funeral because some loser drunk killed him.

I am about tired of this drunk crap on our roadways, and it's about time some people do some hard time. Pretty sad when someone can do more time for shoplifting in this state than killing someone with a car.
Enough is enough.

[LovelySummer]

Mr. Flashport,
Why is anyone other than this drunken idiot to blame?
I am appalled that she would not take responsibility for her OWN actions (getting drunk in the first place when she DROVE to the bar). The problem is that the state of GA is not hard enough on drunk drivers. I have at least one relative who is REPEATEDLY pulled over for drunk driving and everytime he goes to court, they make him go to a freaking driving school and then give him his license back!!! The state should share some of the blame for these drunk drivers. The costs are just too great.

[arjay57]

The idiotic drunk who did this is unquestionably to blame. It's absurd for anyone to defend that kind of moronic, callous behavior.

That doesn't automatically get everybody else off the hook, however.

[MRFLASHPORT]

Originally Posted by LovelySummer

Mr. Flashport,
Why is anyone other than this drunken idiot to blame?
I am appalled that she would not take responsibility for her OWN actions (getting drunk in the first place when she DROVE to the bar). The problem is that the state of GA is not hard enough on drunk drivers. I have at least one relative who is REPEATEDLY pulled over for drunk driving and everytime he goes to court, they make him go to a freaking driving school and then give him his license back!!! The state should share some of the blame for these drunk drivers. The costs are just too great.

Under Georgia law, you can be charged if you aid, abet or assist another in commission of any crime. When this woman, who has yet to be named, was handed the keys by the off duty FCSO deputy and instructed Ms. Ingle and Ms. Watts not to operate a motor vehicle as they were clearly intoxicated, and she proceeded instead to circumvent this by returning said keys to vehicle to person or persons she knew were intoxicated, she committed a crime.

She is partially responsible criminally and civilly in addition to the driver, as she chose to aid and abet Ms. Ingles offense of driving under the influence of alcohol, and subsequently vehicular homicide in the death of Mr. Hanks. Therefore, this third party should also be charged, especially since she is the only living person. She needs to be taught a hard lesson that when a person is drunk, you don't hand them keys to a vehicle, especially after a law enforcement officer has taken them away and entrusted you with such. The family of Eric Hanks and the fiance left behind deserve COMPLETE justice, I don't speak for them, but if I were in her shoes, I would not rest at night knowing some person is out there who helped another drive intoxicated and I would make it my life's mission to see them prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

As far as your relative, this is what Georgia law allows. We look at DUI as minor, as there is some idea that one has a "right" to operate a motor vehicle. I do not agree with this either. Personally, I think 1st time DUI should be a 1 to 5 FELONY. I have zero use for intoxicated drivers. This includes DUI less safe, which means being overly tired, distracted or otherwise. Operating a motor vehicle is as serious as piloting an aircraft, you are not only responsible for your safety, but those with you and around you on the road and in you vicinity.

In my opinion, if you feel otherwise, maybe you should take the bus.

Sidenote: things are gonna get real bad for Mr. James Jacobs, the owner of the car Ingle was driving. Mr. Jacobs is not a relative, but apparently a sugar daddy who gave Ingle money and allowed her to use his vehicle. This should serve as a lesson for all of you to NEVER allow ANYONE to drive your car, unless you are there. I have a feeling Mr. Jacobs is about to be sued by half a dozen people. Hope he's got good insurance.

[PKCorey]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Occasionally drivers just become disoriented.


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[arjay57]

Originally Posted by MRFLASHPORT

Sidenote: things are gonna get real bad for Mr. James Jacobs, the owner of the car Ingle was driving. Mr. Jacobs is not a relative, but apparently a sugar daddy who gave Ingle money and allowed her to use his vehicle. This should serve as a lesson for all of you to NEVER allow ANYONE to drive your car, unless you are there. I have a feeling Mr. Jacobs is about to be sued by half a dozen people. Hope he's got good insurance.

I thought it was okay to loan somebody your car unless you know they are incompetent. But maybe he did know.

[RoslynHolcomb]

I think this article, though dated, gives some interesting insight. Especially when it talks about the way they installed cameras in places where wrong ways occurred to assess the reasons why. They then did redesigns to address it. Also, though most wrong ways involve drugs/alcohol approximately 40% do not.

Stop. You're Going the Wrong Way! - Vol. 66· No. 2 - Public Roads

[arjay57]

Very interesting, Roslyn.

Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with installing automated bazookas that remove wrong way drivers before they actually pull onto the main roadway.

[MRFLASHPORT]

Originally Posted by arjay57

I thought it was okay to loan somebody your car unless you know they are incompetent. But maybe he did know.

You are liable regardless. Unless your car is taken w/o permission, and you reported it (PD report), you are subject to civil liability at minimum, criminal in certain circumstances.