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Old 05-13-2014, 08:29 PM
 
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I thought the complaint was about Cobb getting a measly $350K in federal funding for transit.

That's dwarfed by the loot that the feds "spread around" for transit all the time. In addition to the $50 million streetcar grant I mentioned above, the feds give MARTA about $100 million a year.
...Which in turn is dwarfed by the Billions of federal dollars that highways get, which goes disproportionally to suburbs.

Get the subsidies out and let local governments (and mostly users) fund their own transportation.

 
Old 05-13-2014, 08:43 PM
 
Location: In your feelings
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I think the point is that the political apparatus that controls Cobb county blasts wasteful government spending 24/7 but has no reservations about dropping hundreds of millions in cash giveaways to private developers. That they then ask for federal assistance to complete that plan is simply the coup de grâce.
 
Old 05-13-2014, 09:14 PM
 
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I thought the complaint was about Cobb getting a measly $350K in federal funding for transit.

That's dwarfed by the loot that the feds "spread around" for transit all the time. In addition to the $50 million streetcar grant I mentioned above, the feds give MARTA about $100 million a year.
They also gave $1.26B for highway funds so it's clear they still value roads.

What does a 400k study provide that they haven't already baked into their plans? They're cutting the total # of spaces on site, a key argument as to why Turner Field was killing their team. I'm not sure why it takes a new stadium to get 5,000 parking spots. No matter what the study says, they'll need buses and lots of them. The commissioners have already painted themselves into a corner with the funding plan so there's no room for alternatives or even meeting promises they've made thus far. It also goes strongly against the self-sufficient proclamations that Cobb County is making about the financial health of their plan. End of the day, they sprung a huge impact to the metro area while providing no funding to the roads in the area and mere lip service to traffic improvements. The transportation budget could run dry before they finish moving the pipeline and then it comes down to who flips the bill for all the other stuff.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 09:13 AM
 
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New renderings: Home of the Braves Renderings » Home of the Braves
 
Old 05-14-2014, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Too bad I'll never visit.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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The streetcar will actually be useful. That's the difference.
The same can be said for Cobb roadway improvements, too. They will be useful to the folks using them. The streetcar will be useful to the folks using it. No difference.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 10:06 AM
 
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What an absolute mess. It will be impossible to get home to Smryna on game days. Getting to Spring RD is terrible now. Often Cobb Parkway is bad. Those who work in those offices across from the where the ball park sits, will mostly need to make left turns out and there are no lights.

What an ill conceived disaster in the making.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 10:26 AM
 
Location: East Atlanta
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What an absolute mess. It will be impossible to get home to Smryna on game days. Getting to Spring RD is terrible now. Often Cobb Parkway is bad. Those who work in those offices across from the where the ball park sits, will mostly need to make left turns out and there are no lights.

What an ill conceived disaster in the making.
I used to take my wife to work and pick her up from the CBeyond building right across 75 on Windy Ridge from this development. It was a total mess getting to 285 from there on any normal day. There's no way this won't make it a complete nightmare. The infrastructure can't handle the extra traffic. The thing about Turner Field is that for a lot of people, it's a reverse commute. Traffic is heading out, you're heading in to the ballgame. The connector is always screwed, with or without Braves traffic, but there won't be a good way to get to this stadium and avoid traffic.
 
Old 05-14-2014, 11:04 AM
 
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But the pictures are pretty, right?

Braves do deserve some credit for trying to make this a nice looking 365-day-a-year mixed-use destination. But poor choices on Cobb's part, this stadium is a dis-service to their residents. Liberty Media should be paying for 100% of the stadium, not 45%. Cobb will have enough costs just paying for the additional wear on their transportation infrastructure and lost tax revenue as companies move offices away.

Anyone confirm that the $368M (of the $650M total) that Cobb is (currently) spending is the largest non-transportation tax expenditure by a local government in Georgia history?

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Old 05-14-2014, 12:31 PM
 
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A little hard to tell but is the stadium rotated from earlier views? It seems that it used to face east but now looks to be south/southwest which is unusual. Probably not great for evening games for batters unless that overhang is really big on the outfield.
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