01-29-2017, 04:18 PM
Location: North Carolina
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I'm currently working in the Perimeter Center area (and renting an apartment in the area). It is possible that my spouse may have an opportunity in SW Henry county. The lease ends in June...so the plan is to either rent for a year in the area where we are considering buying (very good schools, safe, family friendly, affordable) or look to buy this summer. Renting for a year is a strong consideration...so we could get familiar with the 'new' area before buying.
Based on some of the posts that I've been reading on the board, I have been checking out areas in east Cobb and Roswell/John's Creek. However, that was all before this possible opportunity for my spouse in SW Henry county. Now, I'm not sure what areas we should consider since there would be quite a bit of distance between our respective work locations. I know that work locations can change, so, although that is a consideration (due to the insane traffic/wanting to minimize commute times), we really want a diverse, safe, family friendly area with great schools and access to shopping, dining, and activities.
What areas would offer that and provide commutes that we could tolerate? Most of the recommendations on the board, especially when schools are a consideration, tend to trend towards east Cobb, areas to the north, or areas far south. Are there other areas that we should consider? Of those areas, which would provide the better commutes for both of us?
Thanks in advance!
I've tried to put some of this info into the questions at the top...
1. Budget
Rent - Target range would be around $1500 - $1600 for a 2BR/2BA apartment. We could go a bit
higher if needed for the area…or if we decided to rent a house.
Buy – Target range would be $450K or less. Could possibly go a bit higher if necessary...but would prefer not to exceed that too much.
2. House/Condo/Townhome?
Rent – Apartment/Condo/Townhome/House
Own – House (would prefer a community setting with amenities such as a clubhouse, pool)
3. Employment Status(commute/work from home)
Commute 1 – Perimeter Center area (possibly WFH 1 day a week)
Commute 2 – SW Henry County
4. Children(public school vs. private)
Yes, 1 child in elementary school. Would prefer public school…would like an area that has very good
elementary, middle, and high schools. We would also prefer an area that has a high percentage of
students moving from the (zoned) elementary to the (zoned) middle and from the (zoned) middle to
the (zoned) high school.
5. Suburban or Urban lifestyle preference or a mix of the two
Prefer a bit of a mix. Like the suburban lifestyle, but still like to be close to dining, shopping, activities.
6. Easy access to public transit, important or not?
We each have vehicles…but having access to public transit would be a nice to have. I could actually
take the train to the Perimeter center area if convenient enough.
7. Preferable demographics of desired neighborhood.
We really want a diverse, safe, family friendly area with great schools and access to shopping, dining,
and activities.
01-29-2017, 04:56 PM
Location: Seattle, WA
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I presume 'SW Henry County', you mean the Hampton area.
If so, Hampton is not really near the freeway, but it's a straight shot down US 41/Tara Blvd, from Atlanta/East Point area. And East Point has MARTA access to Perimeter Center. But I don't know about the schools around there, and the safety.
Best option in your situation might be Fayette County, which fits your description, with good schools. And it would be a good commute for your spouse, into nearby Henry County.
For you, it will be a terrible commute up to Perimeter Center, but you might could make it slightly better if you parked at College Park MARTA station and took the train from there? I don't know how easy that is to do, or if it's even preferable.
But if you can WFH at least 1 day of the week and the spouse can't, then let them have the better commute.
Sorry, basically, there's no great answer, because this region is plagued by terrible traffic and very few options.
01-29-2017, 05:10 PM
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Whew! Perimeter Center and Southwest Henry County is quite the case of divergent commuting patterns within the same household.
The first places that I can think of to recommend right now are the Parkview and Brookwood clusters of south-central Gwinnett County.
I recommend the Parkview and Brookwood clusters (the clusters of schools in south-central Gwinnett County that are anchored by Parkview and Brookwood high schools) because of the extremely high quality of the public schools in those areas (where the schools are known to be some of the best public schools in the entire Southeastern U.S.) because that area of south-central Gwinnett County is somewhat equidistant to both the Perimeter Center and Southwest Henry County areas.
The Parkview and Brookwood areas might also be good candidates for relocation for the OP and the OP's spouse because the Perimeter Center would only be a moderately-challenging commute for the OP on many days while Southwest Henry County would mostly be a reverse-commute for the OP's spouse.
Hopefully some of the other regulars on the Atlanta forum will weigh in with suggestions on areas to look for housing that can help the OP's unique household commuting situation.
01-30-2017, 03:56 PM
Location: North Carolina
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Thanks for the feedback primaltech and Born 2 Roll.
I did a quick check of the schools in East Point and most are ranked near the bottom, so I don't think we would want to consider that area.
I'm not sure if it could work, but I'll look into commute options from Fayette county.
I will add the Parkview and Brookwood clusters to areas to consider.
Would areas such as East Cobb and Roswell provide too challenging of a commute for my spouse?
01-30-2017, 04:05 PM
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Move to either 75/285 in Cobb or 85/285 in Gwinnett because the drive to Hampton will be a reverse commute
01-31-2017, 12:23 AM
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Thanks for the feedback primaltech and Born 2 Roll.
I did a quick check of the schools in East Point and most are ranked near the bottom, so I don't think we would want to consider that area.
I'm not sure if it could work, but I'll look into commute options from Fayette county.
I will add the Parkview and Brookwood clusters to areas to consider.
Would areas such as East Cobb and Roswell provide too challenging of a commute for my spouse?
Fayette County would be a good choice for a commute to the Hampton/Southwest Henry County area, but would provide for a challenging rush hour commute to and from the Perimeter Center area on many days.
East Cobb would be good for peak-hour commuting to and from the Perimeter Center area but would provide for a somewhat long peak-hour/rush hour commute (at least an hour or so each way on good days under the best commuting conditions, much longer on not-so-good days) to and from Southwest Henry County.
Roswell would provide for an even longer and more challenging rush hour commute to and from Southwest Henry County, particularly on the worst days and especially with a massive traffic congestion-generating multi-year reconstruction project ramping up at the already very busy I-285/GA 400 North interchange in Sandy Springs.
The spring 2017 opening of a new MLB (Major League Baseball) stadium for the Atlanta Braves at the very busy I-75/I-285 Northwest (Cobb Cloverleaf) interchange also raises concerns about possible severe congestion during evening commutes on dates when the Braves will play their home games on weeknights.
It is because of these factors (length of time, new stadium, massive highway reconstruction, etc) that it may not be recommended that you saddle your spouse with either an East Cobb-SW Henry County or a Roswell-SW Henry County rush hour commuting pattern at this time or for the foreseeable future.
The opening of the new MLB stadium for the Braves and the massive reconstruction of the I-285/GA 400 interchange also might be good reasons to be extremely mindful about the possible ramifications of a Fayette County-Perimeter Center rush hour commuting pattern.
In any case, you might want to avoid saddling either you and/or your spouse with a commuting pattern that might involve heavy use of the Top End of the I-285 Perimeter between the I-75/I-285 Northwest (Cobb Cloverleaf) and I-85/I-285 Northeast (Tom Moreland/Spaghetti Junction) interchanges during peak hours (particularly during morning and afternoon/evening rush hours).
01-31-2017, 07:42 AM
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I would suggest you both try to keep your jobs on the same side of town. That commute would be terrible for one of you. Can you look for a job opportunity on the south side as well? If you were both on the south side, with spouse working in Hampton, then I would suggest looking at Fayette County or McDonough (Union Grove school zone). If you like where you are at now, then I would suggest spouse look for other job opportunities on the northside. Traveling from Gwinnett to south Henry daily is not a good option IMO. Good luck!
01-31-2017, 05:23 PM
Location: North Carolina
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Thank you all for the feedback! At this point, it is only a possibility...nothing firm yet. I just wanted to get some ideas...as to what our options could be if things progress...
01-31-2017, 07:27 PM
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I might suggest that she/he keep job hunting. Or you look for a job that direction.
Keep in mind that for the3 or so years, Perimeter Center is going to be tougher than normal because of the 400/285 interchange project.
02-22-2017, 07:55 PM
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I will start a new thread since I can't edit the title of this one. We now have updated commute info.
Commute 1 – Perimeter Center area (possibly WFH 1 day a week)
Commute 2 – Near Emory University
We are looking to rent a Townhouse or Single Family Home for a year…then would like to buy a single family home, preferably in the same area (school district) where we are renting (would prefer a community setting with amenities such as a clubhouse, pool).
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People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)