1 dead, 3 injured in MARTA train shooting (Atlanta: crime rates, felon, living)

[cqholt]

https://cleantechnica.com/2015/01/05...pared-driving/

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

You are really having a hard time grasping this. OP said "I guess we're just gonna ignore this since it doesn't agree with the MARTA narrative of this board?" So the first response were reactions to that statement

Then you came in this thread with adgenda against MARTA

To show how backwards this has gotten "excuse/reason to justify a murder is wrong Literally no one in this thread have did that...

Making an excuse/reason to justify a murder would for the "killer" not single posters came in this thread defending the killer.......... seriously dude what are you thinking? You just equate posters basically saying MARTA is irrelevant, to poster defending a killer.


Again what posters are responding to is trying to make this about MARTA. Yes your focus and agenda MARTA is showing you care little about this unfortunate situation of some one passing. Every time bring up or fear monger against MARTA a posters is going to hit you back with logic that your more a risk with fatalities driving.

If you actually care about the person passing who suffer a fatality it wouldn't matter how or where. At the end of the day some lost a love one which hurts either or.

There was no reason to bring up cars. None. Do you understand that? Those people are the ones that don't care. Recent trends show there is now an issue with safety and gun violence at MARTA stations. That isn't 'fear mongering' it is a fact.

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by primaltech

But it is, a 100% perfectly valid retort. You just don't like it because it ruins your little idiotic "sky is falling" panic and fear narrative.

You're trying to sit here and imply that taking MARTA isn't statistically safe, so then by what statistically safer means are you planning on reaching your destination, if not by car? Walking? That also has a degree of danger, likely higher than taking MARTA.

There is risk involved every time you leave your front door.

If any business had 5 murders in a year you would say it is perfectly safe? There is a clear agenda on here and it is by people who are trying to use vehicle accidents as an excuse for murders on MARTA not being a big deal. Look at the first page of this thread.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by ronricks

If any business had 5 murders in a year you would say it is perfectly safe? There is a clear agenda on here and it is by people who are trying to use vehicle accidents as an excuse for murders on MARTA not being a big deal. Look at the first page of this thread.

What are the 5 murders you're referring to? I'm not disputing it, I just don't recall them.

[primaltech]

Originally Posted by ronricks

If any business had 5 murders in a year you would say it is perfectly safe?

Yes. Even if 100 people died on average per year, flying Delta Jets is still very safe.

If the risk of anything happening to you is a tiny fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of 1%, then it's safe. If the risk is much higher, then no, it's not safe. I'm sorry that you're unable to understand this.

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by ronricks

There was no reason to bring up cars. None. Do you understand that? Those people are the ones that don't care. Recent trends show there is now an issue with safety and gun violence at MARTA stations. That isn't 'fear mongering' it is a fact.

Originally Posted by ronricks

If any business had 5 murders in a year you would say it is perfectly safe? There is a clear agenda on here and it is by people who are trying to use vehicle accidents as an excuse for murders on MARTA not being a big deal. Look at the first page of this thread.

It also a fact that automobile safety is a greater concern. A thousand people died in cars in Georgia last year alone and you think 1 to 5 on MARTA deserves even more of our focus & concern than that? No. There is not enough room in this forum to make a thread every time someone dies in a car.

Given that driving is the main alternative someone taking MARTA would consider, it is very relevant. If your concern is safety, you should get out of your car and take MARTA every possible trip you can.

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by jsvh

It also a fact that automobile safety is a greater concern. A thousand people died in cars in Georgia last year alone and you think 1 to 5 on MARTA deserves even more of our focus & concern than that? No. There is not enough room in this forum to make a thread every time someone dies in a car.

Given that driving is the main alternative someone taking MARTA would consider, it is very relevant. If your concern is safety, you should get out of your car and take MARTA every possible trip you can.

Guns are an issue. Not cars. Cars had nothing to do with this. I drove a car today and didn't get shot in the head. There is also no reason for there to be murders at MARTA stations. None.

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Guns are an issue. Not cars. Cars had nothing to do with this. I drove a car today and didn't get shot in the head. There is also no reason for there to be murders at MARTA stations. None.

Sure. Guns are a concern but not as much as a car. I handled a gun (at a gun range) a few weeks ago and didn't die. However, I know multiple people that have received life threatening injuries or died from cars.

Crime should be (and is) a key national concern. But if we are going to focus on transportation, cars deserve the most focus for their lack of safety compared to transit.

[Forhall]

You guys are kind of throwing around different arguments.

Is marta safer than driving? Yes, stats show that.

Should marta have shootings? No, and that's the issue. The people saying "so what? Still safer than driving!" are missing the point. That would be like Delta crashing a plane due to a safety violation and instead of saying that they should do something about their standards, release a statement saying "Well, Delta is still safer than driving!"

The expectation with driving is that you might get into an accident. It's an assumed risk. It's built in. There should *not* be an assumed risk of getting shot riding MARTA. That's not something that comes with the territory.

[primaltech]

Originally Posted by Forhall

There should *not* be an assumed risk of getting shot riding MARTA.

And there's not!

For the love of god, people. Did you all fail third grade math? How many people have taken MARTA in a year, and how many of them were shot?

The 'assumed risk' is as negligible as any other normal daily activity, that nobody even thinks twice about.