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Old 11-10-2020, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Yeah, it is working real well in LA, Seattle, & San Francisco.... you know, cities with great compassion & unlimited resources to help the homeless.
Most of them are not mentally ill, but rather are afflicted with the voluntary “disease” of drug addiction. And most of them are not from Austin. At least that is what a close relative (a first responder who has dealt with hundreds of them on a daily basis for 10 years) has said.
Crazy or not, they have no excuse for living in filth & garbage.

Adler and his worthless city council has and continues to screw the taxpayers of Austin with their incompetence.
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Old 11-10-2020, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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I live in far eastern round rock and I've seen zero panhandlers. Before that, I lived in north Pflugerville for ten years and saw zero panhandlers.
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Old 11-10-2020, 11:42 AM
 
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These various "strategies" have become a lucrative industry.
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Old 11-10-2020, 11:42 AM
 
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I’m not extremely affluent on the mental illness aspect. I do believe a broad portion of them however are mentally ill however, but also believe many of them are people who have had crisis events happen in their life such as say multiple deaths in their family and losing their job in a relatively short period of time, nowhere else to turn - next thing you know their drinking addiction is the only thing to clinge to, lose concern for societal values and in essence give up on themselves. Not as difficult to do as one might believe if issues pile up and they have no way of escaping them, especially if they are financial issues and they incur before the individual is able to establish a trade.

I personally believe it is a very real issue and applaud that the leftist are addressing it, I just deeply disprove of HOW they’re addressing it.
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Old 11-10-2020, 11:46 AM
 
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I live in far eastern round rock and I've seen zero panhandlers. Before that, I lived in north Pflugerville for ten years and saw zero panhandlers.
I said the same thing when i lived close to arboretum in 2016 when people mentioned homeless problem. Now the intersection of 183 and great hills is a cesspool
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Old 11-10-2020, 11:50 AM
 
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These various "strategies" have become a lucrative industry.
Yeah. HUD and Ben Carlson are making buck from helping the homeless.
Hey, maybe he is, how would I know.

Who is making all that money from the homeless exactly. Everyone I know volunteers. The only paid folks are formerly homeless.
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Old 11-10-2020, 11:53 AM
 
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Yeah, it is working real well in LA, Seattle, & San Francisco.... you know, cities with great compassion & unlimited resources to help the homeless.
Most of them are not mentally ill, but rather are afflicted with the voluntary “disease” of drug addiction. And most of them are not from Austin. At least that is what a close relative (a first responder who has dealt with hundreds of them on a daily basis for 10 years) has said.
Crazy or not, they have no excuse for living in filth & garbage.

Adler and his worthless city council has and continues to screw the taxpayers of Austin with their incompetence.
Adler and the council do not have a grasp on behavioral psychology. When you allow a behavior to exist and provide a path-of-least-resistance through lax aka "compassionate" policy, you are making the problem grow.

Governor Abbott created a safe camping area away from densely populated areas, where public health could service them, and APD could prevent the drug dealers from getting to these people. THAT was the start of what needed to happen and the Governor provided it already. The CoA could step in with housing, mental health, employment and more advanced support services if they chose to.

Mayor Adler's excuse for the homeless camps was that the CoA could not ban camping if the homeless didn't have another option.

Gov. Abbott provided the option that Adler asked for.

Mayor Adler still did not ban public camping after Gov. Abbott gave him that second option (the option that protected the remaining 99% of the public), and now here we are 12 months later, the homeless are spread everywhere within the city limits and the problem is 3x worse.


Adler is a FRAUD.

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Old 11-10-2020, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Well yeah.
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Old 11-10-2020, 12:19 PM
 
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Yeah, it is working real well in LA, Seattle, & San Francisco.... you know, cities with great compassion & unlimited resources to help the homeless.
Most of them are not mentally ill, but rather are afflicted with the voluntary “disease” of drug addiction. And most of them are not from Austin. At least that is what a close relative (a first responder who has dealt with hundreds of them on a daily basis for 10 years) has said.
Crazy or not, they have no excuse for living in filth & garbage.

Adler and his worthless city council has and continues to screw the taxpayers of Austin with their incompetence.
Drug addiction is a byproduct of mental illness. People who don't have access to proper care self medicate with what they DO have available to them, which is illegal drugs and alcohol. Addiction treatment also falls under the category of health care. I'm not saying it's a cure-all, but it's a start.
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Old 11-10-2020, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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I said the same thing when i lived close to arboretum in 2016 when people mentioned homeless problem. Now the intersection of 183 and great hills is a cesspool
Great Hills though is serviced by bus, which provides easy access. That's part of the problem. There are many areas of Wilco that are inaccessible, including Round Rock. People were very concerned about panhandlers when bus service was introduced, but the pros definitely outweighed the cons. My area, though, has no bus service and won't for the foreseeable future, though Kalahari might change that. I've seen the occasional panhandler around the bus depot in downtown RR but nowhere near the level as Austin.

Round Rock is purple politically, but homeless shelters are very unpopular and the limited transit and fewer roadways aren't conducive to large homeless settlements.

I've found Wilco to be very homeless unfriendly, either through policy, geography, or public sentiment.
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