08-12-2021, 03:34 PM
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Looking for school district insight for our upcoming relo early 2022 from Charlotte to Austin hill country. Of the 3 districts we’re looking at buying within:
-How receptive is each school district and/or school board to parent concerns? We have found that in our current school district, the board has been non-receptive (and even snidely dismissive and passive aggressive) to parents voicing concerns (in-person schooling, for example).
-Does any district prioritize social-emotional values like respect, kindness and empathy?
-Our daughter is academically gifted in language arts. How are gifted children challenged in the classroom?
-What was each district’s response to the pandemic and reopening? Did any district advocate for in-person learning?
-Anything else that’s useful to know?
Appreciate your feedback!
08-14-2021, 04:31 PM
Location: Austin, TX
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You'd probably have more luck in AISD, honestly, but between those three and based on my indirect experience (I have close friends with kids in DS and LT), I would say the least luck in LT.
08-14-2021, 04:57 PM
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You'd probably have more luck in AISD, honestly, but between those three and based on my indirect experience (I have close friends with kids in DS and LT), I would say the least luck in LT.
I would second this and look into how hard your daughter might have to work to get into the Liberal Arts and Sciences Academy (LASA) which is in district with AISD, but is a regional magnet…you’d just be responsible for transportation.
08-14-2021, 08:04 PM
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I would second this and look into how hard your daughter might have to work to get into the Liberal Arts and Sciences Academy (LASA) which is in district with AISD, but is a regional magnet…you’d just be responsible for transportation.
LASA provides transportation for it's students. Calling it "regional" might be a bit misleading. It is an AISD magnet and very strict about attendance boundaries. You cannot even apply without living within AISD. The only exception is for the children of AISD employees that live out of district.
08-14-2021, 08:14 PM
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LASA provides transportation for it's students. Calling it "regional" might be a bit misleading. It is an AISD magnet and very strict about attendance boundaries. You cannot even apply without living within AISD. The only exception is for the children of AISD employees that live out of district.
I use “regional” as Austin metro. I know of one student in Hays county, but she was the daughter of an AISD employee. I have also heard of parents car pooling for their kids due to the transportation time on a bus. From my experience working at another "special" campus, it can be a long hard ride if you live way south or way north.
08-14-2021, 08:32 PM
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I use “regional” as Austin metro. I know of one student in Hays county, but she was the daughter of an AISD employee. I have also heard of parents car pooling for their kids due to the transportation time on a bus. From my experience working at another "special" campus, it can be a long hard ride if you live way south or way north.
There are definitely lots of families that carpool or provide their own transportation, but I wanted to make it clear that transportation is definitely provided. Families aren't on their own to provide transportation unless they choose to.
There are people living outside AISD boundaries, but within the metro area, that think their kids can apply to LASA or other AISD magnets and that they can either move to the district or apply for a transfer to attend the school if they are accepted. This is absolutely not the case and it is taken very seriously. They will actually do a home visit if they have reason to believe that you have falsified your in district address. AISD magnets are for current AISD families only as they should be. There are a few students of AISD employees who live outside the district, but that is a very small number.
I know I might seem very nit picky or a pain about this, but I'm just trying to make sure that the accurate info gets out there.
08-14-2021, 08:57 PM
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As a general note, WISD is a bit of an outlier - 2,500 students compared to 10,400 for LT and 7,400 for DS. If you are looking at high schools, they are ~ 750, 2100, and 3100 students for W, DS, and LT. As a general rule, the smaller districts/high schools will have less ability to provide for gifted (or, for that matter, special needs) students.
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-How receptive is each school district and/or school board to parent concerns? We have found that in our current school district, the board has been non-receptive (and even snidely dismissive and passive aggressive) to parents voicing concerns (in-person schooling, for example).
I do not know what each of those districts is planning to do for the upcoming school year. DS and especially LT where very reluctant to enact restrictions of any sort this year. Shortly after AISD announced a limited virtual learning option in late July, LT indicated they would not have any virtual learning option. I do not know if that has changed, but doubt that it has.
DS appears to have a virtual learning option for students too young (or otherwise unable) to be vaccinated.
I feel for the school boards, as they have been inundated with 'concerns' from every viewpoint. The superintendent of DS resigned mid-year after being fed up with it. I suspect all school boards are pretty much numb to it by now and politely ignore you unless you are one of their inner circle.
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-Does any district prioritize social-emotional values like respect, kindness and empathy?
AISD does a 'Social Emotional Learning' (SEL) program, but I am unaware of any similar program at W, LT, or DS, although that is something I would not be aware of. AISD may be cutting back on theirs due to budgetary reasons. If I were cynical, I would say that the concept is anathema to LT.
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-Our daughter is academically gifted in language arts. How are gifted children challenged in the classroom?
You would need to investigate this in some detail. LT has extensive resources and likes to 'win', so they do fund their arts programs well and they do support their successful students, or so that is my understanding. Depending on the specifics, though, it might vary. Football is a very high priority.
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-What was each district’s response to the pandemic and reopening? Did any district advocate for in-person learning?
For the upcoming school year? All will have in-person learning. All want to have in-person learning. Some will have limited virtual options. The requirements may change at any time, though, and you will need to keep tabs on them if it is important for the immediate future. In general, LT will be the district trending toward 'business as usual' with DS a slightly more cautious approach. Again, no idea on Wimberley, as it doesn't really make the news
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-Anything else that’s useful to know?
The social status (money) pressure in LT is real. If your child has a very confident individual and can avoid the peer pressure, no problem. But I know a number of families with kids there that have commented on it. One moved their kid and he is thriving elsewhere. If you have the money to keep up with the Jones', then possibly not a problem, either.
Wimberley is just (relatively) small. That can be a good or a bad thing, depending on what you are looking for. The arts programs are not likely to be as robust as bigger districts, but you never know. Your input may count for more and there are definitely bonuses to a smaller school.
08-16-2021, 02:07 PM
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This is SO helpful, thank you! I was surprised to see your note that DS was reluctant to enact restrictions, as I believe I had read that they were the last holdouts to keep the mask mandate in place (before Gov Abbott removed the mask mandate for schools). Do you feel that DS skews blue, in line with how their voting has been evolving? We love DS but are also hyper aware of the heavy influx of Californians. We left (cough: "fled") CA very intentionally in 2019 and don't necessarily want to end up in "California lite" in DS.
We have an only child, so for our situation, she needs in-person education for her mental well-being as she craves peer learning scenarios and social communication. And ultimately, we believe every family should have the choice to accept (or not) what is right for their family.
Here in Charlotte, the school board was doing everything they could to ensure schools would NOT reopen. It was extremely disheartening and we want to be sure we're moving into a school district eyes wide open with their policy stances. To your point, perhaps a smaller district like Wimberley would feel more collaborative with parents.
I've heard from at least one other family about the social pressure in LT. We lived in coastal San Diego for almost 15 years so I would guess it feels similar to that?
Lastly, we're also looking at Spicewood which seems to get divvied up between LTISD and Marble Falls. The Marble Falls school ratings seem abysmal - is that really accurate?
08-16-2021, 02:28 PM
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The Marble Falls school ratings seem abysmal - is that really accurate?
If you're looking at the Great Schools rating, take it with a grain of salt. That is all done by parents at will. It's also a much more rural district, so it's not going to be at the same level at LT.
08-16-2021, 02:41 PM
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From a very macro level, it sounds like DS is probably where I would guess you would like best, based on you questions and comments. DS has a mix of conservative and liberal, but there is a generally high level in education. Our neighbor has three kids in DS school district (their mom lives there) and from what I gather they are generally happy with it. The peer pressure is not nearly as bad as LT. The concerns related to the format for school seems to me (again, as an outsider) to be more about the kids than the parents politics in general . LT has more of a political aspect rather than a child welfare goal.
The schools will be open here, that is certain, and will stay open barring truly horrible results - which is possible. If your child is vaccinated, I would not really worry about too many of the other details. We have a vaxxed 14 y/o and a non-vaxxed 11 y/o. As per surveys, the AISD will be somewhwere around 80% voluntary masked w/o a school mandate. I suspect that DS will be fairly high, as well.
Marble Falls has a significant bit of a 'retirement area' reputation, which does not lend itself to focus on schools, although (similar to Wimberley) you just don't see them in the news. Wimberley IS becoming more of a suburb of Austin with people commuting in, which is relatively new and will result in more pressure for good schools. I really like smaller schools, so for me, that would be my second choice to look at.
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Most Common Occupations - Healthcare support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)