Austin Market has truly gone to **** (New Braunfels, Pflugerville: house, schools, subdivision)

[ashbeeigh]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

I’m definitely certain Cedar Park and Leander were considered rural and exurban at best within the recent years but the trend of growth on those suburbs hasn’t met a blip, it only keeps growing. I’m basing my opinion on current trajectory not its history.

Never said you were wrong. A lot of the issue is the land. The land out east isn't the same as northwest of the city. I mean, how many people in the Travisso thread have said they want "views"? They don't want the open land of Del Valle or Bastrop. They want "views." But, even those areas are experiencing a price bump. There are two houses in Lockhart that meet the parents' criteria and one is 396k and the other is 324k. Last year at this time (or maybe right pre-COVID) the homes in Kyle/Buda were going at the same price.

[Need4Camaro]

Well, Travisso particularly is far west Leander. Most of Leander while not as flat as eastern Austin metro isn’t exactly hilly. It’s just more attuned to the northern job market and off the toll road and cap metro rail.

[ashbeeigh]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

Well, Travisso particularly is far west Leander. Most of Leander while not as flat as eastern Austin metro isn’t exactly hilly. It’s just more attuned to the northern job market and off the toll road and cap metro rail.

There were people bidding on the lots with “views” like it was the Rockies. And it being “far west” just speaks to the sprawl. Before we know it there will be people living in Boerne who work in Austin. And while a great weekend Riad trip I wouldn’t want to drive 46 to New Braunfels and then another hour to Austin. (Or even 290 then to west Austin for the ‘scenic’ route).

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by ashbeeigh

There were people bidding on the lots with “views” like it was the Rockies.

Probably because it’s too difficult to get into other neighborhoods like Lakeway, Steiner Ranch, ect.

[cheeva]

Just wait until those "views" are filled with new houses.

5 years from now, everyone in western Leander will have views of each other, and the commute to Downtown will be back to 1.5 hours like it was pre-Covid. That's when the fun begins.

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by ScoPro

A 40’ lot? Might as well live in a shoebox apartment.
As much space as we have in Texas, those kinds of sardine developments are a ridiculous joke, IMO, unless townhome living is the desired goal.

I thought the 60’ lot for our current 2,000 sq/ft house was a huge downsize from our previous home.

I particularly have always wondered why Texas in general despite how much land it has is ridiculously expensive to have lots with acres. The lots, while not Chicago or NY, are on the smaller side for homes compared to what what we had in Georgia. Another question is, why aren’t basements popular here?

Originally Posted by cheeva

Just wait until those "views" are filled with new houses.

5 years from now, everyone in western Leander will have views of each other, and the commute to Downtown will be back to 1.5 hours like it was pre-Covid. That's when the fun begins.

It’s happening pretty fast. When I bought last year, I had a view directly across U.S. 183 to the Toll Road. Since that time, two sets of apartments have been thrown up obstructing that view and three new subdivisions have broken ground... Now where Leander is going to trip is that the city hasn’t upgraded its water infrastructure and doesn’t seem to have plans to do so despite criticism to the mayor... it’s why all the major shopping and restaurants are all in Cedar Park. I’m going to enjoy seeing Leander fill up that pond they have planned for it’s new mixed use downtown while it’s residents can’t even water their grass.

[Austin97]

Originally Posted by ashbeeigh

Never said you were wrong. A lot of the issue is the land. The land out east isn't the same as northwest of the city. I mean, how many people in the Travisso thread have said they want "views"? They don't want the open land of Del Valle or Bastrop. They want "views." But, even those areas are experiencing a price bump. There are two houses in Lockhart that meet the parents' criteria and one is 396k and the other is 324k. Last year at this time (or maybe right pre-COVID) the homes in Kyle/Buda were going at the same price.

the city 100% is going to expand east. There is only so far north you can go before commutes become untenable. 130 into downtown is about the same distance as great hills is from downtown.

People coming from other areas are often used to no views so it isnt a big deal. The city is doing a poor job of encouraging development to 130 and even past 130.

The southern edge of cedar park is about 13 miles from downtown, which is about the same as manor/webberville. The thing is the city could make really good east west transit corridors while the land is empty and we can easily fit the 100K homes austin needs in the next 10 years between 130 and 183.

The land can be zoned high density mixed use before people move out there so no one complains about it later.

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Originally Posted by Austin97

the city 100% is going to expand east. There is only so far north you can go before commutes become untenable. 130 into downtown is about the same distance as great hills is from downtown.

People coming from other areas are often used to no views so it isnt a big deal. The city is doing a poor job of encouraging development to 130 and even past 130.

The southern edge of cedar park is about 13 miles from downtown, which is about the same as manor/webberville. The thing is the city could make really good east west transit corridors while the land is empty and we can easily fit the 100K homes austin needs in the next 10 years between 130 and 183.

The land can be zoned high density mixed use before people move out there so no one complains about it later.

The city will try to make these areas desirable, but until grocery, entertainment and education are desirable no one will move there.

[ashbeeigh]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

Probably because it’s too difficult to get into other neighborhoods like Lakeway, Steiner Ranch, ect.

It’s difficult getting in anywhere right now.

[Need4Camaro]

It would be good to see cities out east and southeast along 130 absorb more growth. It would help stabilize prices. They would need more amenities like better schools, shopping and transportation but could help to ease the westward and northward sprawl.