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As for friends well not too hard getting drinking buddies if that is ones scene...but friends with the European meaning of the word,now that's something else.
You spent time in London, so did I. I have never lived in a more "clicky" place, making friends there is tougher than anywhere else I have lived. What's the difference between a European meaning of friend and the rest of the world?
You spent time in London, so did I. I have never lived in a more "clicky" place, making friends there is tougher than anywhere else I have lived. What's the difference between a European meaning of friend and the rest of the world?
Spent twenty one years plus in London,strange you state clicky as i find Australia very much that way,Perth,especially so.
Lot of folk here say similar,even locals,many of whom admit to having few friends.
London depending on where you live and who you hang out with has a lot to do with your perceptions of friendliness of folk there. I consider it easier meeting folk there is due to the great diversity of the city with a very transient population,whom being strangers are eager to connect with others,as well far more socialisation in going out,for example, for a few drinks after work,in general more places where folk congregate in public places etc.
Saying that i have met some Aussies and Kiwis who have said similar,but then they tended to stay in with other Aussies and in general developed a collective dislike to much to do with London lifestyle.
Equally i have met just as many,probably,whom wanted to stay and were unhappy to return. Different strokes for different folks,i guess.
European meaning is a little different in being a little harder to form perhaps,but a little more depth than Australia,where it can appear rather shallow,easy come easy go type relationships where there is little work in maintaining friendships.
Spent twenty one years plus in London,strange you state clicky as i find Australia very much that way,Perth,especially so.
Lot of folk here say similar,even locals,many of whom admit to having few friends.
London depending on where you live and who you hang out with has a lot to do with your perceptions of friendliness of folk there. I consider it easier meeting folk there is due to the great diversity of the city with a very transient population,whom being strangers are eager to connect with others,as well far more socialisation in going out,for example, for a few drinks after work,in general more places where folk congregate in public places etc.
Saying that i have met some Aussies and Kiwis who have said similar,but then they tended to stay in with other Aussies and in general developed a collective dislike to much to do with London lifestyle.
Equally i have met just as many,probably,whom wanted to stay and were unhappy to return. Different strokes for different folks,i guess.
European meaning is a little different in being a little harder to form perhaps,but a little more depth than Australia,where it can appear rather shallow,easy come easy go type relationships where there is little work in maintaining friendships.
Reminds me of what I've heard about Australia's pub culture on City-Data. Apparently it's generally unlike British pub culture which appears to have an almost community-like feeling. Australia-pub culture sounds more clique-ish where the goal for most is to get pissed and perhaps violent; not a great place to socialise. (or maybe I've been watching too much Coronation Street )
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Reminds me of what I've heard about Australia's pub culture on City-Data. Apparently it's generally unlike British pub culture which appears to have an almost community-like feeling. Australia-pub culture sounds more clique-ish where the goal for most is to get pissed and perhaps violent; not a great place to socialise. (or maybe I've been watching too much Coronation Street )
For a long time the only people who want to pubs were blokey, working class types named 'Bazza' or 'Des' with beards and beer-guts and 'bluey' singlets who'd shout and yell obscenities, lol.
Reminds me of what I've heard about Australia's pub culture on City-Data. Apparently it's generally unlike British pub culture which appears to have an almost community-like feeling. Australia-pub culture sounds more clique-ish where the goal for most is to get pissed and perhaps violent; not a great place to socialise. (or maybe I've been watching too much Coronation Street )
You'll see a lot of pubs in country and outer suburban areas, where the patrons look more like members of ZZ Top or a bikie group.
Not exactly blessed with grey matter, or overtly friendly, but not aggressive as such unless provoked.
At the opposite end of the spectrum are some inner city bars that are quite snooty and snobbish.
Mainly miners and other workers near where I live, who rock up to the pubs still in their "fluoro coloured" work clothes.
In general, the pub culture is over-rated in Australia, I am happy just being a home body with my family, and rarely patronise such venues.
Glassing is all the rage in Australian pub culture these days. Can't get much more aggressive than that. Men, women, any age. Almost 70 such attacks in W.A. alone this year. Apparently it's big in the UK too. Something in the genes? Or just the common cultural trait of excess boozing?
Glassing is all the rage in Australian pub culture these days. Can't get much more aggressive than that. Men, women, any age. Almost 70 such attacks in W.A. alone this year. Apparently it's big in the UK too. Something in the genes? Or just the common cultural trait of excess boozing?
Glassing means hitting someone over the head with a glass?
Though I've never witnessed it and "never" hear of it in the news, I suspect it does happen periodically in Ontario.
Glassing means hitting someone over the head with a glass?
You'd be lucky if that only happened to you. No, in Oz "glassing" means when they smash the bottle/glass in your face, or smash it beforehand, then slash your face, maybe destroying an eye while they're at it. Extensive plastic surgery, permanent scarring both physical and mental, resulting in either a few months of jail time for the perp, or in most cases, nothing. Nice, huh?
People who've never been to Oz have no idea when we mention "an aggressive pub culture". It's not like those Hollywood Western movie versions of saloon fights, or a bit of a biff-biff. Many Australians get absolutely plastered and many of the drunks here are beligerent, violent ones, not happy ones.
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You'd be lucky if that only happened to you. No, in Oz "glassing" means when they smash the bottle/glass in your face, or smash it beforehand, then slash your face, maybe destroying an eye while they're at it. Extensive plastic surgery, permanent scarring both physical and mental, resulting in either a few months of jail time for the perp, or in most cases, nothing. Nice, huh?
People who've never been to Oz have no idea when we mention "an aggressive pub culture". It's not like those Hollywood Western movie versions of saloon fights, or a bit of a biff-biff. Many Australians get absolutely plastered and many of the drunks here are beligerent, violent ones, not happy ones.
Yeah I've wittnessed a few pub fights/brawls. You'd be unlucky to be seriously hurt, as often it's just light and noise, but still it doesn't leave a very good impression. It's also sort of common to be a totally innocent bystander and to get attacked for no reason than you were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Perth especially seems to have a high ratio of aggro wankers who will jump on the slightest excuse to beat the **** out of you.
Reminds me of what I've heard about Australia's pub culture on City-Data. Apparently it's generally unlike British pub culture which appears to have an almost community-like feeling. Australia-pub culture sounds more clique-ish where the goal for most is to get pissed and perhaps violent; not a great place to socialise. (or maybe I've been watching too much Coronation Street )
What i find is i can go to a British pub alone and usually with ease be able to converse with others. British pubs come in many forms. Some i would walk in and straight out,feeling an aggressive vibe. Others ideal for a chat with someone perhaps never to see again,while yet others more of a have a laugh sort of place.
Aussie pubs generally more cliqueish as you say and lack a certain vibe.Folks here not so great conversationlists.....Of course either country going out with a group of mates is usually fine but they are far more strict here in Australia in serving when it is considered one of the party has had enough.What happened to us was one of the group we were with tripped on returning to table and we were all informed that there would be no further beers served to any of us...that after only two pints..and none of us under thirty five.
Would never have happened in Britain. Over zealous indeed.
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