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Old 04-08-2014, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Yes the US is the most individualistic nation on earth...to the point of heartlessness...although more American influenced than the UK Australia still has that communality I feel.
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:00 PM
 
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Yes the US is the most individualistic nation on earth...to the point of heartlessness...although more American influenced than the UK Australia still has that communality I feel.
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:39 PM
 
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Yes the US is the most individualistic nation on earth...to the point of heartlessness...although more American influenced than the UK Australia still has that communality I feel.
On Earth? Really.... I don't agree and I don't see how one could make such a sweeping statement.
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:03 AM
 
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My assumption was that Australia definitely has it's own culture, but physically developed in a similar way to the U.S. due to it being a "young" country, as is the U.S. I've been to the UK many times and loved it, but it's obviously a much, much older country and is much more "compact" in the way things are laid out. The only part of the U.S. that's remotely similar to the UK would be in New England, cities like Boston.
In terms of the similarities between the US and UK that differentiate them from Australia, I was thinking about the impacts and influences of historical events.

For example, both the UK and US have fought civil wars, that have impacted their respective psyches. Both countries have at times experienced forms of government that subsequently lead them to articulate a Bill of Rights; the UK in 1698, and the US in 1789. Both those phenomena are quite foreign to Australia.

In term of global roles that have influenced how countries act and relate to others, the US is a world power, while the UK once was (and wishes/pretends it still is? ). Australia has never been anything other than small-medium power with expectations that match that.

The UK was once a major centre of the slave economy, while the American south was very much a part of it. That’s another experience that’s largely foreign to Australia.
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:01 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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On Earth? Really.... I don't agree and I don't see how one could make such a sweeping statement.
Albeit I just visited but it's just the impression I get, and just hearing about American politics, like people cheering when Ron Paul talks about people who can't afford medical care dying, and what I've read here. Hae you been to the States?
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:30 AM
 
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Albeit I just visited but it's just the impression I get, and just hearing about American politics, like people cheering when Ron Paul talks about people who can't afford medical care dying, and what I've read here. Hae you been to the States?
Do you ever listen to commentators like Andrew Bolt here?
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Old 04-09-2014, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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Albeit I just visited but it's just the impression I get, and just hearing about American politics, like people cheering when Ron Paul talks about people who can't afford medical care dying, and what I've read here. Hae you been to the States?
Not all of us are like that, but yes, it's unfortunately a big part of the culture. The "I've got mine, now *********" culture. The conservatives here seem to want to do away with most, if not all, social programs. While the U.S. progesses in some areas, I think the widening divide between the super rich and the poor, and erosion of the middle class, will cause the country to become quite unappealing in the future.
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Old 04-09-2014, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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In terms of the similarities between the US and UK that differentiate them from Australia, I was thinking about the impacts and influences of historical events.

For example, both the UK and US have fought civil wars, that have impacted their respective psyches. Both countries have at times experienced forms of government that subsequently lead them to articulate a Bill of Rights; the UK in 1698, and the US in 1789. Both those phenomena are quite foreign to Australia.

In term of global roles that have influenced how countries act and relate to others, the US is a world power, while the UK once was (and wishes/pretends it still is? ). Australia has never been anything other than small-medium power with expectations that match that.

The UK was once a major centre of the slave economy, while the American south was very much a part of it. That’s another experience that’s largely foreign to Australia.
Yes, in these aspects, the U.S. and Australia are quite different. I was thinking more about how the two countries look in their development - housing, shopping, street configureations, etc.
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Old 04-09-2014, 04:42 PM
 
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Yes the US is the most individualistic nation on earth...to the point of heartlessness...although more American influenced than the UK Australia still has that communality I feel.
I think that you're living in the mid 90s with this. I don't feel that there's communality at all in Australia today like there was 20 years ago. There's probably more of it where I grew up in NY. The baby boomers have destroyed this country like a pack of locusts and everyone has an "I'm alright, Jack" attitude. I spend a lot of time in both countries and there's no doubt that Aus is the worse one now.
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Old 04-09-2014, 04:46 PM
 
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I think Australian people are more quiet and reserved than British people.
Britain makes so many of the best music, movies, tv, sport, celebrities etc and I just don't see the same creativity or outgoing openness in Australia as there is in Britain.
Britain's global popular modern culture is impressive and original and the people there are very sociable and outgoing.
Britain is a more cosmopolitan, modern and liberal country than Australia and this is evident in the politics, society and culture
I have to disagree with everything in this post, from your compliments to your British self-congratulation.
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