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Old 12-19-2013, 02:31 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TexasHorseLady View Post
Well, the statistics that I got were NOT from the insurance companies but from the NHTSA. Sorry, but that particular excuse won't work.

And, likewise, "but, Mooooom, EVERYBODY's doing it" doesn't work either.
...and the NHTSA is a government entity. Where do they get the info from? The police. Who supplies the police with radar guns? The insurance industry. Can you guess why they do that?

"Moooom, everybody's doing it" would indicate that we a still children. Most on the roads are adults. Adults are the one's who vote for laws, like speeding. Everyday we vote with our right foot, and the majority agree that 10-15mph over the limits is OK.
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:52 PM
 
Location: NH
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There is no one specific cause for someone driving poorly or inconsiderately. Many people just don't care.

Stress, ignorance, inexperience, intoxication and poor visual cognition are some of the reasons. People who stay in the passing lane with disregard to other drivers who want to pass could be ignorant, arrogant/rude, a poor driver or combination.

To be a truly good driver requires a combination of attributes. The attributes being:

Experience
Visual/spatial cognitive ability/good vision
Quick reflexes
Consideration of other motorists
Ability to focus and be aware of changing road conditions
Being aware of the big picture of what is happening on the road or what is going to happen, planning ahead
Adjusting speed to changing road conditions during different times of the day, rush hour etc.
Knowing the ability of the vehicle you are driving

Most people have at least one of these but unfortunately most do not have all and will never be a truly good driver.

No one seems follow the one car length space for every 10 mph, if they did there would be less traffic on the highways.In rain or inclement weather it should be doubled at least.

Learn how to pass and use your directional ! Respect other motorists on the highways! It's not hard !

Last edited by Know Nonsense; 12-19-2013 at 04:12 PM..
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Old 12-19-2013, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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...and the NHTSA is a government entity. Where do they get the info from? The police. Who supplies the police with radar guns? The insurance industry. Can you guess why they do that?

"Moooom, everybody's doing it" would indicate that we a still children. Most on the roads are adults. Adults are the one's who vote for laws, like speeding. Everyday we vote with our right foot, and the majority agree that 10-15mph over the limits is OK.
I see you got it! Folks who decide for themselves what traffic laws should and should not be obeyed based on their own preferences and "everybody's doing it" justifications are, to all intents and purposes, children in their behavior and their attitudes.

Voting with your right foot rather than working to get laws that you feel are inappropriate changed is not adult behavior, either.
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Old 12-19-2013, 04:09 PM
 
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There was a positive correlation with lower levels of education and self admitted aggressive driving habits. This was 27 years ago, so you'll have to forgive me for not remembering all the details. But I will educate you on the fact that real Statistics can't be based on IQ levels because less than .5% of the population has ever actually taken an intelligence quotient test. Also, Saying that smart people are more likely to speed but less likely to kill anyone doing so is absolute nonsense, as speeding is the #2 cause of all traffic fatalities in this country. There is not a positive correlation between traffic tickets and being intelligent as well. In fact, it's quite the opposite.

I'm guessing you don't work in the insurance business LOL

Now slow down before you cause an accident kid!
I posted studies and you gave your opinion. Enough said.

As for 0.5% of the population, when you are talking about 6 billion people, that is still 3,000,000 people. By any measure that is a large sample size.
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Old 12-19-2013, 04:24 PM
 
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I see you got it! Folks who decide for themselves what traffic laws should and should not be obeyed based on their own preferences and "everybody's doing it" justifications are, to all intents and purposes, children in their behavior and their attitudes.

Voting with your right foot rather than working to get laws that you feel are inappropriate changed is not adult behavior, either.
And yet you think people who break other laws, namely the passing lane ones, should face no penalty. Odd.

And seriously, did you even read the source you cited. It by no means found that it is legal to drive in the left lane without passing. If that is your contention you either didn't read it or are lying.

What that source found was that the stop was bad because there were many cars on the road, too short a distance, and so on. By no means did it remotely prove that this is not the law in your state:

"Sec. 545.051. DRIVING ON RIGHT SIDE OF ROADWAY. (a) An operator on a roadway of sufficient width shall drive on the right half of the roadway, unless:
(1) the operator is passing another vehicle;

(2) an obstruction necessitates moving the vehicle left of the center of the roadway and the operator yields the right-of-way to a vehicle that:
(A) is moving in the proper direction on the unobstructed portion of the roadway; and
(B) is an immediate hazard;
(3) the operator is on a roadway divided into three marked lanes for traffic; or
(4) the operator is on a roadway restricted to one-way traffic.
(b) An operator of a vehicle on a roadway moving more slowly than the normal speed of other vehicles at the time and place under the existing conditions shall drive in the right-hand lane available for vehicles, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, unless the operator is:
(1) passing another vehicle; or
(2) preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.
(c) An operator on a roadway having four or more lanes for moving vehicles and providing for two-way movement of vehicles may not drive left of the center line of the roadway except:
(1) as authorized by an official traffic-control device designating a specified lane to the left side of the center of the roadway for use by a vehicle not otherwise permitted to use the lane;
(2) under the conditions described by Subsection (a)(2); or
(3) in crossing the center line to make a left turn into or out of an alley, private road, or driveway.

Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, Sec. 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995."

If you are toodling along in the left hand lane, and you are not passing someone, or the handful of other specific exceptions you are breaking the law.
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Old 12-19-2013, 04:26 PM
 
Location: NH
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The is no substitute for courtesy and "common" sense on the road. Your arguing is wasted words. Larn to drive defensively and you'll be okay.:
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:15 AM
 
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I hope that one day you realize that people like you, that refuse to free the passing lane are the cause of many accidents.
I don't get it - why don't you want to offer the curtesy of safely moving over at any time there is a faster car behind you (and there is nobody in front of you)????
Because if I'm going the maximum posted speed, there shouldn't be any faster traffic. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?
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Old 12-22-2013, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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There is no one specific cause for someone driving poorly or inconsiderately. Many people just don't care.


To be a truly good driver requires a combination of attributes.

Most people have at least one of these but unfortunately most do not have all and will never be a truly good driver.

Nearly all accidents are caused by drivers who have a temporary lapse or a permanent deficiency or a distraction from their understanding of how driving a car requires constant attention to the details of driving.
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Old 12-22-2013, 10:49 PM
 
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Because if I'm going the maximum posted speed, there shouldn't be any faster traffic. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?
Because it is not ideal. Do you expect people to tolerate you intentionally holding them up? Do you expect every motorist to follow the speed limit? There will always be faster traffic. They will weave around you in a aggressive manner. Multiple lanes are not available for you to choose which one you prefer to drive in. They serve a purpose, hence why most highways aren't one lane in each direction.
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Old 12-23-2013, 01:23 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Because if I'm going the maximum posted speed, there shouldn't be any faster traffic. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?
Just don't do it...

consider...
Someone is driving an injured person to the hospital (Happened for me tonight and there were intentional SLOW driver in the left lane; x5).
Someone is (responsibly) rushing to attend to caregiving needs.
Any number of TRUE emergencies with lights and sirens (not all see / hear that... )
Leaving someone an OUT, in case they need to veer into another lane due to any number of issues.


So sad, so thoughtless, so dangerous (To be a fast lane HOG)
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