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The rest of the world has plenty of those, and they come cheap with diesel engines and ****. Great MPG, great utility, no problems with parking in the city. Perfect for everyone but the USA.
WTF is this? After reading a rumor where Toyota will remove the 2 seat cab option off their Tacoma. Never mind the news that the Dakota brand is cancelled, the updated Ranger will be sold overseas, etc. Even our chance at getting a Holden UTE (El Camino) stateside has vanished. Reason being: Australia has had low sales due to the dominating foreign *Compact Truck* segment.
Same **** can apply to station wagons here too.
If I had three cars it would be a compact truck, a station wagon and a roadster
Apparently CAFE standards are built so that smaller trucks, especially the ones that have less emissions and more MPG, are unable to meet standards due to some ****ed up logic that the President supports. The solution to this is:
Extended truck beds
Or
Extended cabs
Which is essentially making the car longer, and less efficient! There is also a third solution: a weaker engine, but from what I've read, we can't have that since this is America, not to mention that it sacrifices the towing utility of the truck!
Once again, thanks Obama for making this country so socialist that even ****ing Europe has a free car market that is more free than our free car market (purchase required)
I just want a short, small pick up to haul my bikes and other stuff around with good MPG and easy parking. But we can't have that since this is America, and EVERYTHING must be bigger except my savings and city parking.
I just want a short, small pick up to haul my bikes and other stuff around with good MPG and easy parking. But we can't have that since this is America, and EVERYTHING must be bigger except my savings and city parking.
That's fine and dandy, but automakers are in business to make money.
Part of making money is not making redundant product lines.
A v6 regular cab/short bed F150 has about 100 more horsepower, more utility and gets about the same MPGs and more towing than a loaded $24k top of the line Ranger ever did. That's right. I saw a '12 Ranger SuperCab on a car lot for $24 last year. That's not a big deal if not for the fact that I could have bought a SuperCab 5.0L F150 for $18k. Sad to see you go, Ranger.
Why does the rest of the world have to settle for Mazda-made Rangers? Because there isn't room for full-size trucks.
Nissan did away with regular cab Frontiers most of a decade ago. Hasn't hurt their bottom line one iota.
I have two F150s parked out front. Should I get a convertible next or spring for a Town Car?
Once everyone gets used to the idea that automakers aren't here to do anything more than make a buck, then it'll all be fine.
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I have a 2007 Ranger 4WD with only 60k miles, and plan to keep it a looong time.
I could see the demise of the small truck and wanted to get one while they still were being made. Since then the technology has made the V8 in the new trucks more efficient that the 4.0 V6 in mine, and people are using them as family cars so they want a real back seat.
Once again, thanks Obama for making this country so socialist that even ****ing Europe has a free car market that is more free than our free car market (purchase required)
So just buy a nice used 2008 Chevy Luv or Ford Courier, from the pre-Obama era. It'll last until President Cruz brings back the old days.
A v6 regular cab/short bed F150 has about 100 more horsepower, more utility and gets about the same MPGs and more towing than a loaded $24k top of the line Ranger ever did. That's right. I saw a '12 Ranger SuperCab on a car lot for $24 last year. That's not a big deal if not for the fact that I could have bought a SuperCab 5.0L F150 for $18k. Sad to see you go, Ranger.
This is actually a big part of it. peopel simply stopped buying smaller trucks when they realized that the basic full size did more work for the same or even less money. the value just wasn't there to pay the same or more for less truck. We don't HAVE size restrictions in most of the US, and we have cheap fuel. So tiny diesel trucks just have no value to them vs a basic full size V6 truck.
I LIKE small trucks and have had quite a few of them over the years, but the fact remains that they stopped being a value years ago.
This is actually a big part of it. peopel simply stopped buying smaller trucks when they realized that the basic full size did more work for the same or even less money. the value just wasn't there to pay the same or more for less truck. We don't HAVE size restrictions in most of the US, and we have cheap fuel. So tiny diesel trucks just have no value to them vs a basic full size V6 truck.
I LIKE small trucks and have had quite a few of them over the years, but the fact remains that they stopped being a value years ago.
The problem with many of the full-size vs. compact/mid-size truck comparisons, is that they are comparing an optioned-out V6 compact/mid-size, with a base V6 full-size. Sure, in that case, the smaller truck has almost no advantage over the full-size, except for less bulk/better manueuverability.
Last time I checked into the F150, the V6 was limited to the regular cab only. Looking at the crew cab, even with the short (5-1/2 foot) bed, it took the 5.0 litre V8 as the base engine. If you compared a base XL F150 crew cab, with a base 4-cyl. Tacoma double cab, the F150 has about a $9000 higher MSRP, and the city mileage rating is about 4 mpg less.
The full-size truck is still going to be the better value, but what if you really don't need the additional capacity and bulk?
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