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Get the code from the dealer or from a local Autozone or other parts store. With a code the diagnosis can be made, guessing can end. With a diagnosis, you can figure out if the dealer is screwing with you.
Wait a minute...the report is from 2003, so how can it be for a 2004 model?
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Originally Posted by PhotoProIP
Do you think a dealer will fix this if it was a recall from so long ago??
Next year model cars come out, generally, in September/October of the year before. So, the 2004 models were released around September or October of 2003.
Note the report is for model year 2004.
Yes, a dealer would fix it, if it were related to the recall and the recall had not already been performed. So far as I know, there are no time limits on recalls. I doubt that anyone has drug a 50 year old car into a dealer for a recall.. But technically, if it hadn't been done, the dealer would fix it.
If it is a leaking fuel line, again, that is most likely not causing the SES light.
Next year model cars come out, generally, in September/October of the year before. So, the 2004 models were released around September or October of 2003.
Note the report is for model year 2004.
Yes, a dealer would fix it, if it were related to the recall and the recall had not already been performed. So far as I know, there are no time limits on recalls. I doubt that anyone has drug a 50 year old car into a dealer for a recall.. But technically, if it hadn't been done, the dealer would fix it.
If it is a leaking fuel line, again, that is most likely not causing the SES light.
Ok. Thank you for explaining that.
We have no family or friends that can help with this, so I will have to check the other stuff you said.
P0442 - Evaporative Emission Control System Leak Detected (small leak)
P0420 - Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 1)
P0456 - Evaporative Emissions System - Small leak detected
Based on the codes.. not being familiar with that car.. I'm thinking 2 problems. First, have the exhaust system checked. Doubt the Cat is bad.. Being a 10 year old car, especially if you're up north.. Quite possible you've got an exhaust leak
IF you have an exhaust leak, then it's quite possible that whatever ate through that has started eating at the evap system as well. What part of the world you in?
It is a leak in the evap system. You have a bad fuel tank vent valve, cracked evap line, crack in the fuel filler neck hose, hole in the fuel tank itself or something in that area. You will most likely have to drop the gas tank to find it. If it is a crack in the fuel filler neck hose, it will leak fuel while filling and also leak badly while you are driving it around while the tank is still close to full. Once the fuel level gets low enough, it will quit sloshing up the neck and out the crack. The fuel tank pressure sensor and evap sensors are detecting the leak. The leaking fuel could get on the exhaust system and ignite so it is dangerous to continue driving the vehicle until repaired.
If it is leaking as badly as you say, it should not be very hard to find once you drop the tank because it will have an obvious clean streak where the fuel has been running out and down.
I'm basing the exhaust leak on the P0420 code. If he actually had a bad cat.. There'd be drivability problems, most likely.. or a hell of a rattle where the catalyst separated and was banging around in the casing.
The rest is basically what I was getting at, if not what I said.
If he's in a northern area especially, salt could have caused enough corrosion for a small exhaust leak, causing the P0420, and also eaten through some part of the evap system causing a small leak in it. Which is why I asked for the area that he lives in.
I don't see one problem causing all three of these codes. Which is why I said I think it's 2 distinct problems. I don't see an evap system problem triggering an exhaust system problem code.
The P0442 and P0456 are the same problem. The P0420 is likely distinct.
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