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W motor was Piech's baby. It has the bad qualities of horizontally opposed motors (difficult access, wide and heavy), high complexity, and high fuel consumption - but also the smoothness and power that you get from a radial engine.
W motor was Piech's baby. It has the bad qualities of horizontally opposed motors (difficult access, wide and heavy), high complexity, and high fuel consumption - but also the smoothness and power that you get from a radial engine.
I wonder if the lack of this model in the US market has anything to do with the impression of many that the quality of VW, and Passats especially, is comparable to a Yugo. Nice driving cars - you bet. But way too friendly with the mechanics.
You know that crossed finger sign to ward off evil and bad luck? I make it every time someone mentions VW in a conversation. Worst car I ever owned was a VW Passat. And that is saying something - I owned an Austin America for a while.
I wonder if the lack of this model in the US market has anything to do with the impression of many that the quality of VW, and Passats especially, is comparable to a Yugo. Nice driving cars - you bet. But way too friendly with the mechanics.
You know that crossed finger sign to ward off evil and bad luck? I make it every time someone mentions VW in a conversation. Worst car I ever owned was a VW Passat. And that is saying something - I owned an Austin America for a while.
By and large, branding matters to Americans. Phaeton failed because nobody wanted to pay upwards of 70 grand for a vehicle with a VW badge on it, never mind the fact that it was mechanically very similar to the Audi A8 which sold for the same price.
One could expect that the 1990 Lexus LS400 would have failed spectacularly in the US if it were sold here under the name Toyota Celsior.
By and large, branding matters to Americans. Phaeton failed because nobody wanted to pay upwards of 70 grand for a vehicle with a VW badge on it, never mind the fact that it was mechanically very similar to the Audi A8 which sold for the same price.
They depreciated rapidly, too. But a used Phaeton with low miles can be obtained rather cheaply, and they are said to be wonderful to drive. Remove the VW badging and your neighbors and co-workers will be terribly impressed.
There is a W10 model as well, but not over here. Too bad.
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Originally Posted by Qwh
Passat never came with a W10 even in Europe...
Architecturally speaking, I don't see how a W10 is possible. A W8 is four banks of two; a W12 is four banks of three, and and a W16 is four banks of four.
My understanding of W engine configurations is that there are 4 banks, and thus you couldn't do a W10. You could do a V10 but not a W10.
They depreciated rapidly, too. But a used Phaeton with low miles can be obtained rather cheaply, and they are said to be wonderful to drive. Remove the VW badging and your neighbors and co-workers will be terribly impressed.
I've toyed with the idea. They're getting a lot harder to find though.
Architecturally speaking, I don't see how a W10 is possible. A W8 is four banks of two; a W12 is four banks of three, and and a W16 is four banks of four.
My understanding of W engine configurations is that there are 4 banks, and thus you couldn't do a W10. You could do a V10 but not a W10.
Please let me know if I'm wrong about this.
VW's W12, for example, is really two narrow-angle VR6 engines sharing one crankshaft.
They used to have a VR5 engine in the portfolio, so they technically could have created a W10 engine in the same fashion.
That said, the Phaeton had a diesel V10 in Europe, not a W10.
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