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Old 01-22-2019, 03:16 PM
 
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This topic is like the movie Groundhog Day. Just keeps getting repeated over and over and over again...
Topics like that are innumerable.
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Old 01-22-2019, 03:51 PM
 
Location: D.C.
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Ha! True!
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Old 01-22-2019, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Florida
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My 7 year old car has 24000 miles on it. It will most likely outlast me. Maybe my grandson would like a nice blue convertible.

I don't need an electric.
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Old 01-22-2019, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Podunk, IA
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My 7 year old car has 24000 miles on it. It will most likely outlast me. Maybe my grandson would like a nice blue convertible.

I don't need an electric.
My mom has an 11 year old car with 31K miles.
If I don't get a EV (or more likely, a range extended EV), that'll be the reason why.
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Old 01-22-2019, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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Until they beat the limited mileage before a recharge, electric cars will not become a major player. Once the major manufacturers really wake up, there will be no room for marginal companies like Tesla.

Getting all electric vehicles to use a standard battery will never, never, never, ever happen. Stop that day dream now.
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Old 01-22-2019, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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This reminds me of the argument over which tape format is superior, once CDs came around.
. . .
The most efficient form of land transport is steel wheel on steel rail. (See rolling resistance)
Coupled with electric traction, you have the answer.


Any other form of transport is far more wasteful.
Eliminate all subsidies and taxes, which skew common sense, and it will soon be obvious that shifting 80% of all transportation of goods and passengers should be by electric rail, in all its forms.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/289...urn-the-corpse

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Old 01-22-2019, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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This reminds me of the argument over which tape format is superior, once CDs came around.
. . .
The most efficient form of land transport is steel wheel on steel rail. (See rolling resistance)
Coupled with electric traction, you have the answer.


Any other form of transport is far more wasteful.
Eliminate all subsidies and taxes, which skew common sense, and it will soon be obvious that shifting 80% of all transportation of goods and passengers should be by electric rail, in all its forms.

This articles goes into detail why using batteries for mass transportation is a DEAD END.

http://www.altenergystocks.com/archi..._corpse_1.html
....

Interesting that the same website has this article:

Surprisingly Affordable Electric Vehicles - Alternative Energy Stocks

and rail just doesn't, and can't, go everywhere and when you need transportation to go, and won't in this country.
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Old 01-22-2019, 05:15 PM
 
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Wonder how we'd be doing without the billions in petroleum subsidies in this country? Gas is cheap because petroleum industry lobbyists have successfully lobbied for it to BE cheap.




Old tired argument. Everybody in America’s life is 100% affected by the price of gas. Everything from the plastic you’re typing on to the roads you drive on require petroleum. We’d all have to accept a 16th century lifestyle if we gave up fossil fuels.

To answer the OP’s question, when the economy is good, it’s easy to make promises for another generation to keep. If s government mandates a technology that otherwise doesn’t sell itself creates unintended economic havoc in a democracy, expect it to be the first to go during an election year. The environment always takes a back seat to a healthy economy.
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Old 01-22-2019, 06:02 PM
 
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The next demonrat US president may mandate that all ICE engines be destroyed or no longer sold.
It's just a matter of time.
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Old 01-22-2019, 06:04 PM
 
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The next demonrat US president may mandate that all ICE engines be destroyed or no longer sold.
It's just a matter of time.
There is that whole getting re-elected thing to contend with.
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