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We can all wish to go back in time but the automakers are not going back in time take what the make or keep fixing you old vehicle till it can’t be repaired no more and cost more to repair than it’s worth. Those are your choices all the complaining is not going to persuade a automaker to go back in time to make what they use to.
I appreciate your honesty. Not sure I was complaining to the level of contacting the manufacturer or auto company to make a seen. Somethings No matter how revised for the sake of technology aren't necessary...one need not reinvent the wheel so to speak.
As iterated, when the ignition works...it does its start up. When more parts are needed it does "delay" starting the car. Pretty sure most can render a bit of Head nodding that it does impede an otherwise simple task ....
Luckily there are actually more choices then the either /or.
iPad type screens are a fad, not a bureaucratic mandate. My wife's 2018 Subaru has the screen in the center stack. Same with the 2019 models. Personally, I hate the iPad screens. They look ugly and as if they were an afterthought.
Touch screens a Fad? I don’t think so, there’re here to stay, on autos, appliances and even on tools and heavy equipment.
Knobs and toggle switches all gone by the wayside for touch (sensor) and now voice control!
And iPads have virtually shelfed laptops, mines now collecting dust in a closet. It’s all about function and practically❗️
Touch screens a Fad? I don’t think so, there’re here to stay, on autos, appliances and even on tools and heavy equipment.
Knobs and toggle switches all gone by the wayside for touch (sensor) and now voice control!
And iPads have virtually shelfed laptops, mines now collecting dust in a closet. It’s all about function and practically❗️
To me it's not all or nothing with physical buttons. If you ONLY have physical buttons, you can't accommodate much functionality under user control - it takes up too much space and gets too confusing. On the other hand, if you ONLY have a bare touch screen and no knobs or buttons, then frequently accessed controls can be irritating to access through layers of menus. The best interfaces will have default info displayed that's the most important and frequently needed, and physical controls for those controls that are the most important and frequently accessed - like volume and tuning on a radio and temperature, fan speed and mode for climate control for example, and then you still use a touch screen with hierarchical groups of controls for things that are useful but less frequently accessed.
Touch screens a Fad? I don’t think so, there’re here to stay, on autos, appliances and even on tools and heavy equipment.
Knobs and toggle switches all gone by the wayside for touch (sensor) and now voice control!
And iPads have virtually shelfed laptops, mines now collecting dust in a closet. It’s all about function and practically❗️
I was using the terminology of the poster I was responding to. An iPad screen in a car is one that sticks up out of the dash, as opposed to being located in the center stack. Mazda uses them and I've also seen them in the Kia Stinger. Too me they look like an afterthought. And I don't like them.
I was using the terminology of the poster I was responding to. An iPad screen in a car is one that sticks up out of the dash, as opposed to being located in the center stack. Mazda uses them and I've also seen them in the Kia Stinger. Too me they look like an afterthought. And I don't like them.
Most manufactures are going to stand up screens, up high on the dash, for the reason I mentioned. The cameras are mandatory now in the US. Even the Bentley motorized screen will not meet the regs for instantly being useable when reversing, though I love how it vanishes completely when not in use.
Most manufactures are going to stand up screens, up high on the dash, for the reason I mentioned. The cameras are mandatory now in the US. Even the Bentley motorized screen will not meet the regs for instantly being useable when reversing, though I love how it vanishes completely when not in use.
I'm not a fan of the stand up/ tablet screens either or having the hvac controls completely integrated into the screen. How does the screen sitting on top of the dash help you out compared to an ever so slight glance down to the back up camera in an in-dash stereo. I just think it's lazy design/fad to make cars seem more futuristic. I'm saying this as millennial for what it's worth.
To me it's not all or nothing with physical buttons. If you ONLY have physical buttons, you can't accommodate much functionality under user control - it takes up too much space and gets too confusing. On the other hand, if you ONLY have a bare touch screen and no knobs or buttons, then frequently accessed controls can be irritating to access through layers of menus. The best interfaces will have default info displayed that's the most important and frequently needed, and physical controls for those controls that are the most important and frequently accessed - like volume and tuning on a radio and temperature, fan speed and mode for climate control for example, and then you still use a touch screen with hierarchical groups of controls for things that are useful but less frequently accessed.
That's a common practice on products that require realtime usage and have more features than buttons. You'll also see hybrids like knobs, joysticks, buttons that are permanently delegated to the flat panel.
There's other solutions besides flat panels. One is buttons with built in displays.
I do think that it's unfortunate that the rear back-up thingie has resulted in a cascade of features being moved to a dash display. You not only end up with too many other features moving there in order to achieve cost reduction (or some aesthetic decision), but you have a single point of failure.
I think I'd be more favorably disposed to this stuff if the parts were more interchangeable. Tracking down cabin computer items in a decade is going to be something of a pain.
Considering I bought a used 2014 Tesla - I think that tells you where I stand?
I'm a car enthusiast, but I also feel like technology needs to keep moving forward; not stagnating just because people don't want to deal with change.
The auto-makers have always frustrated me in the past because they brag about how high-tech they are, while vastly over-charging for relatively small and easy to implement gadgets that really aren't all that high-tech anyway. They still put notoriously poor quality stereos in and call them "high end sound". They try to do voice commands and usually use decade-old tech that makes it only understand a few key words, and only 50% of the time you speak the commands. Awful.
I will say, I dislike some of the attempts to change up where basic controls are or how they function. This stuff Chrysler tried with making the shift lever into a dial, for example? Nah.... You want to be able to get in and drive a car or truck with the assumption you already know what the basic pedals, wheels and levers do. But that really has nothing to do with improved technology in them.
"A long-awaited suspicion has been confirmed. Thanks to a study organized by the American Automobile Association (AAA)’s Foundation for Traffic Safety and the University of Utah, we can officially say that in-vehicle tech features in newer cars are widely contributing to the distracted-driving epidemic"
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