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Old 08-03-2020, 07:16 PM
 
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Hyundai reported a 1 percent sales increase in July 2020 compared with July 2019, and Mazda was up by 3 percent. But Honda was down 11 percent, Subaru was down 20 percent, and Toyota reported a 22 percent decline
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Old 08-04-2020, 07:21 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Interesting that the only person I know currently shopping for a new car is looking at the Mazda CX-5 to replace her older Honda CRV.
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Old 08-04-2020, 08:46 AM
 
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Hard to believe a 22% drop in Toyota.
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Old 08-04-2020, 08:50 AM
 
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Interesting that the only person I know currently shopping for a new car is looking at the Mazda CX-5 to replace her older Honda CRV.
I'm not surprised at all by this. The CX-5 is unmatched. It's the obvious choice as long as you don't want a hybrid.
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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The CX-5 has been the one vehicle on our shortlist that is not a Subaru. Given our frustration with Subaru's tight inventory situation for the rest of our list, a red AWD CX-5 that we could actually buy locally is starting to sound good.
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:23 AM
 
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Surprising sales on the CX-5 are not higher as it and the Honda CRV generally tie for first or second place anytime a comparison test is done amongst small crossovers.
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:26 AM
 
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Surprising sales on the CX-5 are not higher as it and the Honda CRV generally tie for first or second place anytime a comparison test is done amongst small crossovers.
If you look at where the Mazda SUVs used to be and where they are now, the growth is impressive. There's a lot of people who hold onto the Honda name from when they used to make good quality cars. Honda and Toyota will have that branding of perceived quality for some time to come. Don't get me wrong, Toyota is doing some amazing engineering in the hybrid space that should be recognized. Honda, not so much.
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:36 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Hard to believe a 22% drop in Toyota.
In this climate? That's exactly what I would expect.

What's amazing is Hyundai's increase. Again, given the climate we are in, that's essentially a huge increase. Everything's relative....today, as always.

It's an amazing sales performance, but not really surprising given the outstanding product Hyundai/Kia are offering.
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Old 08-04-2020, 12:39 PM
 
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In this climate? That's exactly what I would expect.

What's amazing is Hyundai's increase. Again, given the climate we are in, that's essentially a huge increase. Everything's relative....today, as always.

It's an amazing sales performance, but not really surprising given the outstanding product Hyundai/Kia are offering.
Supply constraints impacted several OEM's and Hyundai/Kia admitted they were able to sell more because the competition had such low new car inventory nationwide, while Hyundai/Kia had more inventory, relatively speaking.

Year over year monthly sales numbers are so incredibly meaningless, anyway. That's why most OEM's are going to quarterly reporting now. Year to Date year-over-year is a little better, but honestly the true metric of performance for each vehicle/brand is market share within a given quarter, at least. (Monthly numbers can still have too much variable noise.) That is the true performance indicator no matter whether the market goes up or down.

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Old 08-04-2020, 01:32 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Supply constraints impacted several OEM's and Hyundai/Kia admitted they were able to sell more because the competition had such low new car inventory nationwide, while Hyundai/Kia had more inventory, relatively speaking.

Year over year monthly sales numbers are so incredibly meaningless, anyway. That's why most OEM's are going to quarterly reporting now. Year to Date year-over-year is a little better, but honestly the true metric of performance for each vehicle/brand is market share within a given quarter, at least. (Monthly numbers can still have too much variable noise.) That is the true performance indicator no matter whether the market goes up or down.
Pick apart mine and every other post on this board any way you like - matters not to me. I stand by every word.

Good day.
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