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Old 04-20-2016, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Woodinville
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What % can get by, can start off from a stop without stalling (but at the expense of burning up *way* more clutch material than I do), what % can get over 200K miles out of a clutch like me, what % can drive non-syncromesh without grinding any gears, what % can do a clutchless shift without any gear grinding?
What kind of techniques do you use to get 200k out of your clutch? I used to think I was great at driving clutch, but my last car was just starting to slip at 60k (I bought it used with 15k). I didn't even notice it actually, but the dealership who did my 60k maintenance said the clutch was worn. Granted it was Kia, but seeing as how clutches have been pretty high quality for many years now I thought I'd get more life out of that clutch than I did.


I think I stalled the car twice in 5 years of ownership.
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Old 04-20-2016, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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What kind of techniques do you use to get 200k out of your clutch? I used to think I was great at driving clutch, but my last car was just starting to slip at 60k (I bought it used with 15k). I didn't even notice it actually, but the dealership who did my 60k maintenance said the clutch was worn. Granted it was Kia, but seeing as how clutches have been pretty high quality for many years now I thought I'd get more life out of that clutch than I did.


I think I stalled the car twice in 5 years of ownership.
Most important technique is not living over in the wet-side metroplex! I drive a lot of back-country "blue" roads, I plan my routes to avoid uphill stop signs and lights. I *never* use the clutch as a hill-hold. I drive like a mechanic, because I am one (a high-end DIY mechanic, I'm a nuclear engineer by trade).

Hard to describe in words - what I do is just to get the clutch out quickly, giving just enough gas to keep from stalling. Typically I go from stationary to just above idle with the clutch all the way out in about half a second. I can do this with my Scirocco. Different cars would require a different touch. Frequently I'll not quite stop completely at a stop sign, if no cops are around. The difference between just barely rolling, slow walk speed, and a complete stop is big in terms of how much you have to slip the clutch. The Scirocco has a low first gear, and as an 8-valve with CIS it makes good torque right off idle.

True, I could not get 200K out of a clutch driving in Seattle. Just not possible.

As for your car, you don't know how it was driven the first 15K. An idiot can trash a clutch in 30K of "normal" urban driving, so it might have been half gone when you got the car.
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Old 04-20-2016, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I learned how to drive on a manual / stick shift car. And the first car I bought was a stick shift. I have owned many cars through the years and still prefer a manual. But I gotta admit, my daily driver is an automatic. I drive a lot for work and easier in this bad traffic.
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Old 04-22-2016, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Niagara county
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Late 60's VW Beatle for me
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Old 04-22-2016, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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I drive a manual because I prefer it. They are getting harder and harder to find. That being said, I don't have a lot of bumper to bumper traffic where I live; I know it's not preferable in that kind of scenario.

Truth is, fewer and fewer people know how to drive one. I took my car to Auto Bell a couple of weeks ago to get it washed, and they had a hard time finding an attendant that could drive the car from the car wash to the area where they dry and detail the car. NONE of the young guys working there knew how to drive a manual car!
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Old 04-22-2016, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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I have a 88 CRX Si and it has a cable operated clutch. It also has a revvy little engine, you just touch the throttle and its at 4 grand. Also the clutch starts to engage when the pedal is half way out. So its difficult for good throttle, clutch coordination and smooth driving. I have 2 other stick shift cars.
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