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So far, I think Chris Goodfellow put out the best theory, but I prefer not speculate. Instead my condolences go out to the families and friends of the passengers and crew, as they deal with the news that their loved ones are likely gone forever.
The Goodfellow theory doesn't explain why the plane suddenly turned south. Nor does it explain why the plane didn't land on any of the available runways that could accommodate a 777.
I learned yesterday that CNN entertained a theory with it's expert panel at one point that the jet entered a black hole....yes we are talking about a region that exists in space. A BLACK HOLE, yeah, that's like entertaining a theory that the plane crashed into the planet Uranus. Those talking heads you see analyzing the plane crash on the news? You can assume that most of them are idiots spewing nonsense, some of which unfortunetly found it's way into this thread....and please let's stop with any further claims that the plane "landed in Pakistan" (in case that's still being bounced around), that's only slightly less likely then the infamous black hole theory. Turn off the channel if the "experts" are still discussing that.
This is what we call responsible journalism in 2014.
The problem is that CNN presents these individuals as "aviation experts". There's no such thing as an aviation expert. There are people with expertise in certain areas of aviation. But few of the commentators appearing possess qualifications, that would be needed to appropriately discuss this particular situation.
The most knowledgeable is, Les Abend, a 777 Captain, who also writes a column for Flying Magazine. Even with him, the reporters lead him into areas beyond his area of expertise. At least he's humble enough to state he doesn't know. A good example was when asked what would have to be done in the avionics bay, to disable the ACARS. He stated, as a 777 Captain he's "never been down there" and "doesn't know any pilots who have".
Two "analysts" who have no business on there are Mary Schiavo and Mike Boyd. Schiavo is an attorney by profession, who spent her working life as a political appointee. Most notably as the Inspector General for the Department of Transportation, where she locked horns with the FAA administrator, during the highly publicized congressional hearings following the Valujet accident in 1996. Since then she's been a go to for the media every time an airliner as much as scratches a wing tip. Her aviation background consist of taking flying lessons at Ohio State University about 40 years ago.
Mike Boyd owns and operates a consulting firm, that deals with the economics of the airline industry. Primarily advising airports on what they can do to optimize airline service in their communities. What he knows about the operation or maintenance of a 777, I don't know.
The ideal panel would consist of a 777 Captain, a 777 mechanic, an avionics technician with a working knowledge of the avionics onboard the 777, and an air traffic controller familiar with operations and procedures in that part of the world.
Amazing though isn't it that one can tell the close location of another across the entire USA (and I bet similar overseas) yet something like that isn't included for airliners carrying hundreds of people?
I get the differences between the technologies used with mobile data and so on and that needed to track planes but can it really cost that much as to be unaffordable? We pay fees for luggage, food, drinks and movies but fitting airliners with the technology needed is beyond the means to do so?
Then, the airlines themselves allow multi million dollar jets with hundreds of customers on board to take off where the pilot could possibly turn off vital system when the UPS, Fed-Ex and DHL trucks everywhere are tracked to their locations within a few hundred feet?
The cost would not be terrible... but what is the benefit? Let's you recover the bodies sooner?
You might want to wait a while. I would think fully automated airplanes are within 20 years of feasibility.
Embedded systems generally cannot be modified live. They are generally loaded off line...often a slower process than normal writes to memory. And often involves a procedure to validate the sw loaded.
The press and world governments seem fairly nonchelant about possible terrorism as well. They would have raised alerts on that. I'm inclined to believe it wasn't terrorism. Could still be a rogue hijacker with knowledge enough to pull this off.
Not necessarily. They may have wanted to avoid global hysteria. Someone posted earlier that Homeland Security has been investigating the possibility of a landing in Pakistan. That doesn't sound like nonchalance to me. It sounds perfectly plausible that the US would be interested in that possibility. And earlier, there was a video posted of a General who said in an interview that such a possibility had been investigated, and the General was convinced that there would be a news release within days about that. It didn't happen, but it shows that the US gov't, at least, isn't being at all nonchalant about possible terrorism.
And yes, it could still be a hijacker. The passenger from China with the forged passport, possibly.
The ideal panel would consist of a 777 Captain, a 777 mechanic, an avionics technician with a working knowledge of the avionics onboard the 777, and an air traffic controller familiar with operations and procedures in that part of the world.
Thay would be the perfect panel.
This flight has the aviation experts puzzled. It may be an event that has never happened before.
This theory has been presented on CNN or Fox. Why does this theory not hold water?
The crew encounters some smoke or oxygen issue. They try to fix the problem themselves. They are disoriented as they try to turn back toward land, turn the controls over to auto pilot, enter what auto pilot data they need to get the plane at some altitude and direction. The radars which show a rise to 45,000 feet where the plane would stall and there is no oxygen, would result in a rapid descent. 26,000 feet was also mentioned. Then 12,000 feet near the level they would want to go to get oxygen. The Air France crew, the plane went way up and down and sharp turns as the pilots tried to get control.
The MH crew with oxygen mask on, and smoke covering the windows and their efforts to get control the problem while losing their abilities, explains alot of that theory.
Knock it off. The poster has a valid point. There is no evidence from the plane, meaning parts/pieces, but all of a sudden, the Malaysian gov wants to come out and say it crashed in the ocean. Even the families are not buying in to it, fully. Even they are saying they want more proof.
No need to be such jerks about a poster's opinion.
The poster has a valid point that we don't know all the details but his conclusion is ridiculous. His most plausible scenario is the PLANE WAS ABDUCTED BY ALIENS. If you think this is at ALL a valid solution, you need to quit watching all that woowoo drek on the History Channel.
Not necessarily. They may have wanted to avoid global hysteria. Someone posted earlier that Homeland Security has been investigating the possibility of a landing in Pakistan. That doesn't sound like nonchalance to me. It sounds perfectly plausible that the US would be interested in that possibility. And earlier, there was a video posted of a General who said in an interview that such a possibility had been investigated, and the General was convinced that there would be a news release within days about that. It didn't happen, but it shows that the US gov't, at least, isn't being at all nonchalant about possible terrorism.
And yes, it could still be a hijacker. The passenger from China with the forged passport, possibly.
If Homeland Security took that as a real possibility we ought to fire everyone there and stop wasting our tax payer money.
Notice how all the airports are in highly populated areas where it would be impossible to land and hide an aircraft. Also if it did happen the Pakistanis would handle the situation and send in the SSG Commandos to end any hijacking situation. I don't understand why people think Pakistan would hide the plan instead of dealing with it considering Pakistan is an ally since 1947-8. It really blows my mind this was given any credence in the media.
Seems like 90% of what is being posted to this thread at this point is either a repeat of something discussed many times already, or is complete nonsense. Not much that is new and substantive.
We don't know the rumors of an unhappy home are false. They were DIVORCED. Happy couples don't get divorced. It's pretty odd that a divorced couple would be living together, too. Was he living in denial trying not to let go? Did she have something on him?
What reason exists to suspect something went wrong? Any anomaly readings transmitted? Any radio comms? The oil rigger has been discredited as too far away to have seen anything.
Where did you get the information saying the pilot was divorced?
Also, where did you get info the oil rigger was discredited?
Seems like 90% of what is being posted to this thread at this point is either a repeat of something discussed many times already, or is complete nonsense. Not much that is new and substantive.
Let's hand out rocks in this thread and beat each other over the head with it so we can continue to come up with more conspiracies and repeat the same things over again.
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