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Old 07-16-2010, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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Bill 'Spaceman' Lee Isn't Shedding Any Tears For George Steinbrenner -- MLB FanHouse

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"As far as Steinbrenner's passing? Good," Lee said. "Trust me, if hell freezes over, he'll be skating.
As someone who hates the Yankees with a passion this was a very low class commentary to make. Steinbrenner was a human being at the end of the day with a family. This reaction disgusts me.
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Old 07-16-2010, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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So, how long is the moratorium on Steinbrenner criticism extend? Until the funeral service is completed?

I wonder about the etiquette involved. Are those who did care for Steinbrenner while he was alive, supposed to change their minds now that he has passed? I wouldn't think so, but precisely when may they resume their negative comments about him?
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Old 07-16-2010, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Lancaster County, PA
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Consider the source.

Not many people took Lee seriously when he was playing so why should anyone care about what he says now? This is the same guy whose mediocre career came to an end when he complained about a teammate being traded or released (Tim Raines?) when they both played for the Expos. Tired of his nonsense and hanging curveball, they released him as well.
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Old 07-16-2010, 02:48 PM
 
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The negative stuff about George Steinbrenner is part of who he was, and it's fair game. He as much as said so while he was alive and active. Where I personally think it goes wrong is when people make comments along the lines of "good", "I'm glad", or references to hell. Those comments don't go with the person who died; they stay with the person who is still here, and they chip away at the credibility of the person who says them. "I don't care" is another one, because it's a nicer way of saying "good"... People who don't care won't take the time to say anything at all.

I'm certainly not the comment police by any means, and I'm not saying I'm right. I just think all of the facts about a person's life are fair game, but the personal attacks don't serve any purpose. I think about it this way: If it was me who died, and one of my kids read something, how would it make them feel? If the answer is miserable, it's probably not the right thing to do.
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Old 07-16-2010, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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The negative stuff about George Steinbrenner is part of who he was, and it's fair game. He as much as said so while he was alive and active. Where I personally think it goes wrong is when people make comments along the lines of "good", "I'm glad", or references to hell. Those comments don't go with the person who died; they stay with the person who is still here, and they chip away at the credibility of the person who says them. "I don't care" is another one, because it's a nicer way of saying "good"... People who don't care won't take the time to say anything at all.

I'm certainly not the comment police by any means, and I'm not saying I'm right. I just think all of the facts about a person's life are fair game, but the personal attacks don't serve any purpose. I think about it this way: If it was me who died, and one of my kids read something, how would it make them feel? If the answer is miserable, it's probably not the right thing to do.
I can't say it any better than this.
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Old 07-20-2010, 05:58 PM
 
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Last I looked,George still owed the american people two completed underway replenishment oilers,which lay,unfinished,in reserve anchorages,decades overdue.A good mark of a man is how well he lives up to his obligations when pen is put to paper.This is most crucial when it involves the defense of this great country of ours,one in which he made a VERY good living.
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Last I looked,George still owed the american people two completed underway replenishment oilers,which lay,unfinished,in reserve anchorages,decades overdue.A good mark of a man is how well he lives up to his obligations when pen is put to paper.This is most crucial when it involves the defense of this great country of ours,one in which he made a VERY good living.
BASTARD! What's an underway replenishment oiler?
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:56 PM
 
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BASTARD! What's an underway replenishment oiler?
Its what keeps carrier battle groups at sea for LOOOOONG stretches of time,believe me,I know!!!
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Old 07-20-2010, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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Yes, that will be his legacy. Whenever people speak of George Steinbrenner, the first thing discussed will always be those incomplete underway replenishment oilers. When no one remembers any longer that he also owned the Yankees, they will still be be bitter over what might have been if only Steinbrenner had not died before the ships were finished.
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Old 07-20-2010, 08:23 PM
 
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Yes, that will be his legacy. Whenever people speak of George Steinbrenner, the first thing discussed will always be those incomplete underway replenishment oilers. When no one remembers any longer that he also owned the Yankees, they will still be be bitter over what might have been if only Steinbrenner had not died before the ships were finished.
LOL,just trying to point out that doing business with the man was alot different than his media persona as a great leader.That most people don't know what an UNREP oiler is just lets me know what a great job I did in the service of this country,winning that nasty Cold War and all.
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