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View Poll Results: Who was worse?
Joe Morgan 11 57.89%
Tim McCarver 8 42.11%
Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-27-2016, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Obviously a lot of baseball fans have despised both announcers but who do you think is worse? I personally like Joe Morgan as a broadcaster. On the other hand, while I like Tim McCarver, but I feel he was way too critical, negative, and I also feel that he was pretty senile so my vote is McCarver. Plus I would not use the word "suck" do describe his broadcasting ability. I would probably just say that Tim McCarver is awful, horrible, terrible, etc as an example.

Last edited by Jonathan Ashbeck; 01-27-2016 at 02:00 PM.. Reason: Changed some wording and added some more words and omitted one of the "so my vote is McCarver"
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Old 01-28-2016, 06:34 AM
 
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McCarver could be overbearing and it seemed like every broadcast in the past few years including something about how Bob Gibson would handle a situation. But, a casual viewer could learn a lot. McCarver understood the nuances of the game. Admittedly he was much better as a Mets broadcaster than he was on the national stage.

Morgan, OTOH, was simply Captain Obvious. Completely useless.
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Old 02-03-2016, 08:57 AM
 
Location: NY
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Joe Morgan was worse, and it is not even close.
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Old 02-03-2016, 10:40 AM
 
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I liked Joe Morgan. McCarver was annoying. Speaking of the number 3 did you know...bah.
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Old 02-04-2016, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Why am I the only one who voted for McCarver? I like Joe Morgan and I don't see anything wrong with him. The problem I have with Tim McCarver is that I feel that he is way too negative and senile.
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Old 02-07-2016, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Morgan was stuck in his time warp and refused to ever give credit to new winning concepts outside the 1970s running game. He'd back up his assertions with comments which were completely nonsensical. There was an amazing article dissecting his incompetence in Oakland's East Bay Express newspaper about 10 years ago but sadly it's no longer available online.
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Old 02-22-2016, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Again I am not sure why seven people voted for Joe Morgan while only three people, including myself voted for McCarver. I like Joe Morgan. While I do like McCarver but he's way too negative and too senile, that's my problem I have with him as Morgan I have no problem with on the other hand. Not sure why many people don't like him and I don't know what's wrong with Morgan.
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Old 02-28-2016, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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Morgan was stuck in his time warp and refused to ever give credit to new winning concepts outside the 1970s running game. He'd back up his assertions with comments which were completely nonsensical. There was an amazing article dissecting his incompetence in Oakland's East Bay Express newspaper about 10 years ago but sadly it's no longer available online.
Morgan was an extremely smart player on the field and I had been thinking that would translate well to the broadcasting booth after he retired. My first clue that I might be wrong was when I read Morgan's autobiography. It was full of cliches substituting for insight, very disappointing.

He was okay the first few years in the booth, but then he got lazy and spent the rest of his broadcasting career just phoning it in. It was evident that he found the new metric analysis annoying, and because he had no expertise in it, he was constantly putting it down and defending discredited positions. he became one of those "smallball uber alles" types, championing bunts and hit and run decisions despite the mounting evidence that such things were inconsequential in the long run. I recall several times when he got pissed at Jon Miller for contradicting some cliche assumption which Morgan was advancing as baseball gospel.

Moragn was also a very successful businessman, owning a string of fast food franchises in the Bay Area, so he didn't really need his announcer salary. Because he wasn't that concerned about getting fired, he figured that he didn't have to do that good a job.
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Old 03-21-2016, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I'm sure a lot of you that despise Morgan heard of the term "Fire Joe Morgan".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_Joe_Morgan
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Old 05-21-2016, 10:22 AM
 
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Plus McCarver doesn't like the Cardinals despite playing for them.
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