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They don't want lowell. The hitting and, especially, the D will go up at 3rd. The D will also go up in CF and LF.
Bay would have been for 4 years
These other deals are for one or two years.
Epstein is doing very well
I do think they're good additions but in the outfield you are losing out significantly in run production.That being said I think hitting wise they are about the same,defensively better.The bullpen has dropped off with guys like Saito and Wagner gone.
The bullpen has dropped off with guys like Saito and Wagner gone.
Huh? Wagner came over late in the season and was limited in his use. Losing him is hardly a trauma. The draft pick from Atlanta was worth it.
Saito was an experienced arm, but he wasn't the primary setup guy. The Sox have Bard, Delcarmen, Okajima, Ramirez, and Paps, along with the option of using Wake, Tazawa, and a host of rookies, along with Bonser who they picked up from Minn. The pen is just fine behind the best starting rotation in MLB.
Huh? Wagner came over late in the season and was limited in his use. Losing him is hardly a trauma. The draft pick from Atlanta was worth it.
Saito was an experienced arm, but he wasn't the primary setup guy. The Sox have Bard, Delcarmen, Okajima, Ramirez, and Paps, along with the option of using Wake, Tazawa, and a host of rookies, along with Bonser who they picked up from Minn. The pen is just fine behind the best starting rotation in MLB.
You do have some depth in the bullpen,I just see a dropoff even though not huge.As far as your starters go,they are very good; but my Yankees have the best rotation in baseball,period!
As far as your starters go,they are very good; but my Yankees have the best rotation in baseball,period!
On that we will have to disagree, and I would submit that if you look at the depth and stats between the two rotations, the Sox have it without it question. The Yankees are struggling with rotation slots 4 and 5...the Sox are set with 6 quality starters.
Beckett
Lackey
Lester
Buchholz
Dice-K
Wakefield as needed for 6th man
You do have some depth in the bullpen,I just see a dropoff even though not huge.As far as your starters go,they are very good; but my Yankees have the best rotation in baseball,period!
Your rotation wont setup like that. Lackey will be 1 or 2 and it goes more like this
Sabathia > Beckett
Burnett < Lackey (if healthy)
Pettite = Lester
Vazquez > Matsuzaka
Hughes > Bucholtz( I do think Bucholtz was better then Joba as a starter as of last year)
As far as Wakefield goes,we have Gaudin who is better then him!
]Your rotation wont setup like that[/b]. Lackey will be 1 or 2 and it goes more like this
Sabathia > Beckett
Burnett < Lackey (if healthy)
Pettite = Lester
Vazquez > Matsuzaka
Hughes > Bucholtz( I do think Bucholtz was better then Joba as a starter as of last year)
As far as Wakefield goes,we have Gaudin who is better then him!
you watch
R, L, R
Beckett, Lester, Lackey
I'm not sure you can put anybody better than Beckett when he's right.
and Lester is >>> Pettite now and it's really not that close.
Pettite 10 years ago I would have agreed with you but Lester was in grade school.
Petitte's era the last 3 yr's
4.05, 4.54, 4.16
Lester's ERA the last 2 yr's
3.21, 3.41
as far as Hughes he does have a great pedigree, but until he shows us something as a starting pitcher in the big leagues, Buccholyz > Hughes
Whether you want to admit it or not Beckett, Lester and Lackey if healthy all have a legit shot at a Cy-Young this yr. I can only say that about Sabathia for your team.
Sabathia and Beckett is pretty much a push. The slightest of edges to CC.
Using Fielding Independent Pitching and CHONE projections from Fangraphs
Sabathia 3.39 FIP last year, 3.59 career, and 3.41 estimated by CHONE
Beckett 3.63, 3.61, 3.48
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Burnett < Lackey (if healthy)
Burnett (if healthy) = Lackey (if healthy). Remeber AJ only pitched about 150 innings a season in 2006/2007. He's no sure thing. I'm not a big fan of the Lackey signing by Bos.
Burnett 4.33, 3.83, 4.17
Lackey 3.73, 3.83, 3.97
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Pettite = Lester
. As a Yankee fan you've been able to avoid many of the things that makes people hate Yankee fans. But you are way over rating your guy or underrating Lester here.
Pettite isn't, and never was, as good as Lester is or will be
Pettite 4.15, 3.74, 4.16
Lester 3.15, 3.78, 3.57
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Vazquez > Matsuzaka
Vazquez and Matsuzaka are hard to predict. I'll give Vazquez the edge because of Dice-K's health issues and because Vazquez was great last year.
Vazquez 2.77, 3.83, 3.61
Dice-K 5.09, 4.27, 4.34
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Hughes > Bucholtz( I do think Bucholtz was better then Joba as a starter as of last year)
Hughes/Joba vs Bucholtz. Hard to say here because non of these guys have been full time starters and we don't know how the Yankees will use Hughes and Joba. All have the potential to be better than league average starters
Joba 4.82, 3.79, 4.17
Hughes 3.22, 3.85, 3.86 (this includes a lot of relief work)
Bucholtz 4.69, 4.51, 4.28
Fielding Independent Pitching, a measure of all those things for which a pitcher is specifically responsible. The formula is (HR*13+(BB+HBP-IBB)*3-K*2)/IP, plus a league-specific factor (usually around 3.2) to round out the number to an equivalent ERA number. FIP helps you understand how well a pitcher pitched, regardless of how well his fielders fielded. FIP was invented by Tangotiger.
Red Sox rotation > Yankees rotation.
Red Sox defense > Yankees defense.
Red Sox offense < Yankees offense.
The best thing for Boston is that they have a Top 3 farm system and certainly have a ton of quality prospects to trade for a big bat at the trading deadline. And they might need to. I'm not convinced that their offense is good enough to win a championship.
Should be an interesting season in the AL East yet again...
Red Sox rotation > Yankees rotation.
Red Sox defense > Yankees defense.
Red Sox offense < Yankees offense.
The best thing for Boston is that they have a Top 3 farm system and certainly have a ton of quality prospects to trade for a big bat at the trading deadline. And they might need to. I'm not convinced that their offense is good enough to win a championship.
Should be an interesting season in the AL East yet again...
I do think that their offense is good enough,just not as much power as they previously had and also once they get rid of Lowell.Some of the best Yankee teams of the 90's had alot of hitters that were single,double guys that also were willing to lay down situational bunts.The issue with the Red Sox might be their middle relief in my opinion.I do think their depth behind their everyday starters in the field has improved though more then anything.
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. As a Yankee fan you've been able to avoid many of the things that makes people hate Yankee fans. 
But you are way over rating your guy or underrating Lester here. 
