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View Poll Results: Who will you root to fail?
Lebron 17 54.84%
Curry/Warriors 14 45.16%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-02-2016, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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One has a championship and an unprecedented hype machine behind it. The other has never won ever in a city that hasn't won anything since 1964. The choice is pretty clear, if you are a sports fan.
I wouldn't say "unprecedented." The Chicago Bulls of the 90s were HUGE. The only difference was that there wasn't any social media. The mass media pretty much fawned over Jordan and the Bulls the same way though.

Jordan had...

Come Fly With Me
A music video with Michael Jackson
Jordan shampoo and cologne
Space Jam
"Like Mike" commercial
The "off the rafter, off the scoreboard" McDonald's commercials with Bird
"Better eat your Wheaties"

Way more mass media saturation than the Warriors
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Old 06-02-2016, 12:17 PM
 
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I clicked the wrong button. I'm rooting for Lebron...to win. I want to see him win one for Cleveland. Curry still has plenty of time to win more rings. Hopefully Lebron gets another one.
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Old 06-02-2016, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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I wouldn't say "unprecedented." The Chicago Bulls of the 90s were HUGE. The only difference was that there wasn't any social media. The mass media pretty much fawned over Jordan and the Bulls the same way though.

Jordan had...

Come Fly With Me
A music video with Michael Jackson
Jordan shampoo and cologne
Space Jam
"Like Mike" commercial
The "off the rafter, off the scoreboard" McDonald's commercials with Bird
"Better eat your Wheaties"

Way more mass media saturation than the Warriors
Yeah, but we DO have social media now. Any hype in the past is child's play. Open instagram? Steph Curry. Facebook? Steph Curry. Snapchat? Steph Curry. Tv? Steph Curry. This Warriors team and Steph Curry reaches more people in a month than any team from the 90s reached in a season. That's just the nature of the internet these days. Maybe if you transported the Bulls through time to now it'd be worse, but that's impossible and not worth discussing.
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Old 06-02-2016, 12:30 PM
 
Location: So California
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Are you The Bay? No! I had no idea you could talk either. I was referring to the citizens of Cleveland.

In that case yes, Cleveland does need our pity & sympathy for years of ineptitude. People want a title for Cleveland not for Lebron....
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Old 06-02-2016, 12:33 PM
 
Location: So California
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It was more of a laughing dismissal.

So we've got the 90-50-40 club plus some other great shooters.

Stephen Curry
Larry Bird
Steve Nash
Reggie Miller
Mark Price
Dirk Nowitzki
Kevin Durant
Ray Allen
Rick Barry
Jerry West
Chris Mullin
Peja Stojakovic

Where does Jordan fit on that list?

Being a great scorer =/= being one of the greatest shooters of all time. Jordan was known as a suspect shooter when he entered the League and developed into a good shooter. But I wouldn't say he was one of the greatest shooters in NBA history.

Being the "greatest" at something doesn't mean you are the greatest at everything. Roger Federer has a great backhand, but he doesn't have "one of the greatest backhands of all time." He has a good serve but not "one of the greatest serves of all time." It's more about the way he puts all of his tools together rather than the greatness of any one single tool. The same is true of Jordan.

I get the nuance of your post, but the name of the game is putting the ball in the hoop and Jordan is the best of all time at that. All great choices to take a last shot, but Id pick Jordan over all of them for a game winning shot.
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Old 06-02-2016, 03:31 PM
 
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So.... like the Cavs too back in the day.

One has a championship and an unprecedented hype machine behind it. The other has never won ever in a city that hasn't won anything since 1964. The choice is pretty clear, if you are a sports fan.
I don't really get it, but ok. I don't really feel sorry for Cleveland (just a tiny bit), and I don't watch sportcenter, talk shows, halftime shows or whatever. So I guess "hype machine" doesn't bother me. It's not so hard to ignore it, why waste your time on it if it bothers you.

I was born into a family of basketball nuts and I've been following it for a long time, but I guess if I'm not a sports fan, so be it, you know better.
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Old 06-02-2016, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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I don't really get it, but ok. I don't really feel sorry for Cleveland (just a tiny bit), and I don't watch sportcenter, talk shows, halftime shows or whatever. So I guess "hype machine" doesn't bother me. It's not so hard to ignore it, why waste your time on it if it bothers you.

I was born into a family of basketball nuts and I've been following it for a long time, but I guess if I'm not a sports fan, so be it, you know better.
Thank you for conceding to being a front runner and not really being a sports fan.
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Old 06-02-2016, 05:32 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Lol it's an easy answer. Golden state warriors are the heavy favorites all year, historically like the Yankees. The front runner favorites. Only warrior worshipping fools can't understand this.
Ummm, were the Warriors favorites to win it all last season?
Before last season, they were in the Finals 40 years prior. Is that historically winning like the Yankees?
Is their payroll historically high like the Yankees?
Do they win inordinate amount of championships like the Yankees?
Before winning last season, was the Warriors brand famous worldwide like the Yankees?
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Old 06-02-2016, 05:35 PM
 
Location: So California
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Ummm, were the Warriors favorites to win it all last season?
Before last season, they were in the Finals 40 years prior. Is that historically winning like the Yankees?
Is there payroll historically high like the Yankees?
Do they win inordinate amount of championships like the Yankees?
Before winning last season, was the Warriors brand famous worldwide like the Yankees?

You are correct. The Yankees of the NBA are the Lakers n Celtics
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Old 06-02-2016, 05:39 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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You are correct. The Yankees of the NBA are the Lakers n Celtics
But, you know, take away all their championships, the Yankees are pretty average.
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