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Old 01-14-2018, 09:44 PM
 
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When the alert went off the wife came into the room and asked what we should do. I replied that somebody at civil defense probably f*cked up, if not the missiles probably will. And its unlikely any would be aimed here since HNL is obviously the target, so we need to worry about the daughter (who lives in HNL).

About that time the phone rang and it was her. She was lucky to get through because shortly afterwards the phone systems puked due to being overloaded. She was crying and didn't know what to do.

I searched the TV and web for news, there was none, which fortified myself that it was a false alarm. We can't normally hear the sirens where we live, but if they go off long enough we can hear dogs howling. No howling.

Most of the information we got in the initial minutes after the alert were on social media. We heard from several reliable sources that it was a false alarm long before anything from "official" channels. 38 minutes later, we got the second alert that there were no missiles. Which was obvious because we had been previously told that we would have less than 15 minutes before the missiles hit after the alerts went off.

Pretty much I would have to give the state of Hawaii an F- for this whole debacle. I can understand making the mistake that caused the false alarm to go off, but to wait 38 minutes to correct it is inexcusable. It has left everybody we have talked to with a complete lack of confidence, not just with missile warnings, but with tsunamis and everything else.
---------Well some are saying it was an attempt by the deep state/dems to test Trump and see if he would start a war.
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:51 PM
 
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And just where do you start the 'firing' process? The Tweeting Twitt?
Some are saying it was a deep state/democratic shenanigan to test Trump and see or try to get him to start a war.
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Pahoa Hawaii
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Yeah, sure. Everything is some Democrat plot. Haw haw.
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Old 01-14-2018, 11:16 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Some people are saying it was a setup by democrats to test Trump and/or make him look bad. Some say it was a guy who pressed a wrong button while leaving his shift (which could relate to the first part), but a lot of people are saying it was a democrat thing because they're all in a flutter over Trump.
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---------Well some are saying it was an attempt by the deep state/dems to test Trump and see if he would start a war.
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Some are saying it was a deep state/democratic shenanigan to test Trump and see or try to get him to start a war.
Ivanka? Is that you?
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Old 01-14-2018, 11:31 PM
 
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Already met 2 people who were fired for walking out of their work to go be with their children.

We just finished our coffee, figuring it was already to late.

Like to know who is responsible for sending that alarm ?
They fire people for leaving to join their children when they think a missile is coming? Must be great employers (sarcasm)
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Old 01-15-2018, 12:41 AM
 
Location: Mountain view hawaii
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Why can't people just accept that Hawaii government is incompetent. . And move on.. there are no conspiracies here.
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Old 01-15-2018, 01:13 AM
 
Location: not sure, but there's a hell of a lot of water around here!
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Some are saying it was a deep state/democratic shenanigan to test Trump and see or try to get him to start a war.
Mod cut: language/personal attack


Sometimes eloquence escapes me

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Old 01-15-2018, 06:22 AM
 
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Why do we fight among ourselves? We should all be fighting towards a common goal -- to make sure this doesn't happen to us again.


Has anyone watched the old Henry Fonda black and white movie FAIL SAFE? If not, it's worth a couple hours of your time. It's a tale about the devastating effects a computer error has on our nation, and the ultimate order the president of the United States has to give to prevent nuclear war with Russia.
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:47 AM
 
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here in sacramento ca. daughter just called and wanted me to pray for here and the kids about the alert on her phone.. shes in oahu and was working and everyone ran out of there meeting. she drove for her kids at home and the traffic was crazy.... as xmilitary i see the civilians aren't to ready. be ready people. please
Be ready? How does one go about effectively readying themselves for a nuclear missile attack? Next question; how does your previous military service make you any more ready than the civilians?

Like those duck-and-cover school drills of the late fifties...all window dressing and placebo to lull the frenzied masses into believing a nuclear missile attack is something you can be adequately prepared for while still able to live a normal existence going about your daily life.

Given your daughter's experience; how could she have been better prepared? Keep her kids home from school? Don't go to work again? Sequester herself and kids in a bunker?

Please enlighten us all on how we can better prepare ourselves for an overhead nuclear burst while still living a semblance of a normal life.
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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I am not sure how Hawaii's "Missle Alert System" works but it should be patched in with the federal emergency alert system. No civilian should be able to "push the wrong button" during a shift change as they say - if they can, it's a nonsensically designed system. How the heck would some civilian even know about a missile launch, what is someone going to tweet him?

From what I read here most Hawaiian's did not treat is seriously, nor should they - the chance of a missile launch at this point of time aimed at Hawaii, in spite of all the media reports, are zero. If we are talking about North Korea they are obviously still testing their IC ballistic missile capability. They are close, but not there yet - and are more likely to drop a missile on there own cities by accident then a specific location across the Pacific, nor can they load a nuclear payload or yet minituarize it. When they stop testing - then start worrying.
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