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Moving to the Big Island and I want to know what area(s) to watch out for. I would think on an Island of only about 250,000 there wouldn't be that much crime but from what I hear some parts of the big isalnd are dangerous. Can someone please give me breakdown of the subdivisions with the pros and cons of living there?
some of the bad puna subdivisons in my opinion are Ainaloa, nanawale, and hawaiian shores. i live in puna so you can ask me more questions if youd like i dont know what else you wanna know.
some of the bad puna subdivisons in my opinion are Ainaloa, nanawale, and hawaiian shores. i live in puna so you can ask me more questions if youd like i dont know what else you wanna know.
What about Hawaiian Beaches? What area would you recommend?
hawaiian beaches is right across the street from hawaiian shores, there is alot of drugs in that area. Hawaiian paridise park, makuu,and leilani are some of the nicer subdivisons but all the subdivisons in puna have crime.
Anybody using this forum needs to check the opinions that are sometimes offered here as if they were validated facts. Sometimes people generalize, sensationalize, fictionalize, and just downright talk as if they are expert consultants on something when if fact they are not.
On something insignificant it's OK to exaggerate, let's say about the weather for example: "It rained cats & dogs all week." It we are talking about crime statistics, which are very important to somebody considering neighborhoods to live in, we just can't say, "It's all drug dealers and crime ridden in that area," for example, unless that is an absolute. That kind of indictment of a neighborhood is serious, and can have repercussions such as giving an unfair negative reputation to people from that neighborhood. Please check your facts before you make a serious blanket assertion like that!!!
We are trying to help each other here hopefully; so lets be careful to state facts as facts, and unsupported OPINION as opinion whenever possible. If we do not know something to be a fact - which is often the case unless we have the time to do comprehensive research, please be clear to state it is your personal opinion, and not necessarily a valid fact.
Just to clarify: I appreciate opinion when it's offered, I just think it's necessary to be completely honest about something serious, and to state that your feelings are only opinions if you have not done the research to state they are facts.
Anybody using this forum needs to check the opinions that are sometimes offered here as if they were validated facts. Sometimes people generalize, sensationalize, fictionalize, and just downright talk as if they are expert consultants on something when if fact they are not.
On something insignificant it's OK to exaggerate, let's say about the weather for example: "It rained cats & dogs all week." It we are talking about crime statistics, which are very important to somebody considering neighborhoods to live in, we just can't say, "It's all drug dealers and crime ridden in that area," for example, unless that is an absolute. That kind of indictment of a neighborhood is serious, and can have repercussions such as giving an unfair negative reputation to people from that neighborhood. Please check your facts before you make a serious blanket assertion like that!!!
We are trying to help each other here hopefully; so lets be careful to state facts as facts, and unsupported OPINION as opinion whenever possible. If we do not know something to be a fact - which is often the case unless we have the time to do comprehensive research, please be clear to state it is your personal opinion, and not necessarily a valid fact.
Just to clarify: I appreciate opinion when it's offered, I just think it's necessary to be completely honest about something serious, and to state that your feelings are only opinions if you have not done the research to state they are facts.
Thanks
i did write that it was my opinion and i thought i was being nice by saying that there is a lot of drugs instead of really scareing them by saying what happened last month in hawaiian shores/beaches. - two women were chased by cops there and got shot at - they were high on cocaine. last year near there a teenager was shot to death - druges were involved. there are a lot of drug dealers and people on drugs in that subdivison in my opinion!!!!!!!!!!
You are being 'nice' in trying to give your opinion, that's appreciated, but it's not the point I'm trying to make in this case in response to your charges of specific subdivisions having "A lot of drugs;" it's a very vague overgeneralization. Just about every part of the US of A could be described as having a lot of drugs. No place is immune to having drugs in this country whenever there is a sizeable population. Puna is a decent size population center! People love New York City, which has drugs I'm sure we agree, but does that mean don't visit or live there? What about the 8 million people that live their everyday lives there raising families and going productively to work everyday and have nothing to do with drugs; should they abandon the city? I think if you ask them they would say you are naive. The two 'sensational' crimes you describe have happened all over this country millions of times, Hawaiian Beaches doesn't have a monopoly on crimes, in fact if you look at the crime statistics for the country's population centers that are similar in size to Hawaiian Beaches, you will see that it ranks far safer than many! Please don't think anybody here is living in a bubble when it comes to crime, especially drug use; we all know crime exists even in 'paradise!' Indicting entire subdivisons is not 'helping' anybody, it's completely unjust and misleading!
Last edited by Paddywagons; 06-09-2008 at 07:55 PM..
do you live in puna?!!!!
Im just saying which subdivisons i think are bad, thats not the only crimes there, but i dont wanna sit here and argue with some random person so bye.
do you live in puna?!!!!
Im just saying which subdivisons i think are bad, thats not the only crimes there, but i dont wanna sit here and argue with some random person so bye.
i didn't mean for this to happen. I understand you were just trying to help and I appreciate that. I'm not sure who the other person is but i'm sure if they lived in puna they would have given their opinion which they didn't. i dont expect to live in a perfect world. I mean it obvisously has less crime than the areas that surround me.....thanks for your help.
Well, I live in Puna. Right now I have Grand Jury duty for the year. Once a month we hand down indictments, and more of the cases from Puna seem to have been in HPP than anywhere else, and mostly above 20th street. Shootings, drugs, assaults, rapes, robberies, felony D.U.I. Why? Because it's a huge area and has about 10,000 people. Crimes from The Beaches have mostly been domestic violence and drugs, about the same as most other areas, about the same as my neighborhood, Leilani. The Beaches is 4 different subdivisions with 4 different sets of rules and living conditions can vary from block to block.
Last edited by leilaniguy; 06-10-2008 at 04:09 PM..
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Were all good.....
