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I'm thinking about the same thing. Wife and I are in Los Angeles and looking for a 3-5 year exit plan to someplace with less people, less traffic, cleaner air and great access to outdoors (mountains, hiking, camping, cycling etc). Less commies, more "Americans" is certainly a requirement for me too. Thinking about Boise area, CO, WA etc. Of course I'm in my prime working years (30s) and still need to live someplace where I can earn a living
You might be a little late for WA and CO. Both passed gun control similar to CA and have been turned purple to blue by all the Commiefornians who moved there. Like CA where the urban areas control the legislatures and state offices, the same goes for CO and WA. It won't be too long that OR is lost too.
It's all perspective, and newcomers to any area don't have a lick of perspective for where they're moving. Sometimes, if their perspective and expectations are reasonable, it all works out. Often, the perspectives and expectations are out of whack and it doesn't work out.
If I had a dollar for every person who moved to Idaho with some fantasy in mind about what Idaho is, and then who subsequently moved because that fantasy was so rudely burst, I'd be well retired by now.
Idaho is not some big kept secret; we have a low population for a reason. Same with Wyoming. Good luck.
"and newcomers to any area don't have a lick of perspective for where they're moving."
Oh hogwash.
Some of us have been doing our homework for decades, and have visited enough times to have a pretty good idea of what trade offs are to be made (if any), if our expectations match reality, and most importantly, how Idaho stacks up with what we don't like in whatever area we are leaving.
I love Idaho, and am grateful for the opportunity to live here, and do not regret leaving behind what I chose to leave behind.
I have about twenty former co workers who have moved to Eagle, Star Meridian, Nampa areas over the last 10 years. ALL say it is the best thing they ever did. None have returned to CA. I just bought a nice custom view home with acreage in Star. One of my former co workers went and checked out my new neighborhood and liked it so much he bought a view lot down the street from me where he plans to build a new custom home. Yes, I realize there will be some negatives living in Idaho however from what I can see, far less than CA. My first winter will be interesting.
"and newcomers to any area don't have a lick of perspective for where they're moving."
Oh hogwash.
Some of us have been doing our homework for decades, and have visited enough times to have a pretty good idea of what trade offs are to be made (if any), if our expectations match reality, and most importantly, how Idaho stacks up with what we don't like in whatever area we are leaving.
I love Idaho, and am grateful for the opportunity to live here, and do not regret leaving behind what I chose to leave behind.
You can do all the homework you want; there are some things you won't know until you experience it first hand.
It doesn't mean you'll end up hating Idaho. It doesn't even mean your homework and research was wrong. It just means you don't know until you experience it, and all the little things you'll never find in a book, online, or talking to other people.
I have about twenty former co workers who have moved to Eagle, Star Meridian, Nampa areas over the last 10 years. ALL say it is the best thing they ever did. None have returned to CA. I just bought a nice custom view home with acreage in Star. One of my former co workers went and checked out my new neighborhood and liked it so much he bought a view lot down the street from me where he plans to build a new custom home. Yes, I realize there will be some negatives living in Idaho however from what I can see, far less than CA. My first winter will be interesting.
Will you be working in the TV, or are you retired?
I'm genuinely curious why people move out to the outer regions of the Treasure Valley if they have to work somewhere in Boise. I hear a lot of people, especially from California, say that their 30 minute commute from Star or Eagle to downtown Boise is nothing compared to where they come from, but that attitude always strikes me as curious, seeing as how State St. is bumper to bumper gridlock from 4:30-6:00, and there is no possibility of improving that commute - it's built out to the max. So it will only get worse. And, of course, there really aren't any jobs in Star or Eagle.
If you don't work, or work from home, different story obviously. Or if you work somewhere in Meridian or on the west end of the TV, same too.
"and newcomers to any area don't have a lick of perspective for where they're moving."
Oh hogwash.
Some of us have been doing our homework for decades, and have visited enough times to have a pretty good idea of what trade offs are to be made (if any), if our expectations match reality, and most importantly, how Idaho stacks up with what we don't like in whatever area we are leaving.
I love Idaho, and am grateful for the opportunity to live here, and do not regret leaving behind what I chose to leave behind.
Great post. And part of the new experience is learning to live with the aspects you might not like and adjusting to them.
No. Good luck finding solid work that will pay what you would expect to make in other states. Honestly.
Do a search in this forum for "jobs."
Well, my wife and I are kind of minimalists and live beneath our means. I don't need a job that allows an extravagant lifestyle, just one that allows for basic simple needs
I'm genuinely curious why people move out to the outer regions of the Treasure Valley if they have to work somewhere in Boise.
Because you can get more house/land for your money. I.e., exactly the same reason you've explained on here several times that you didn't buy a house in the north end. Buying a house boils down to finding the right compromise between price, features/amenities and location, and the right compromise is going to be different for everybody.
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