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Watching the price digestion and weak hands folding. Then, upward prices will continue. Folks are moving here in droves. I say let them come. Growth is inevitable , its a nice place still. I love the morning sky.
Idaho geography is one reason one could consider Idaho as a place to live.
My older sister and her boyfriend are left-wing San Francisco "progressives" who have bragged for the past 4 decades about "The City" being at the forefront of all positive social changes.
Now, they look around and see what a shiithole they helped create and have decided it's time to move elsewhere to start anew. They have set their sights on Idaho. (I talked them out of Hawaii.)
Sister has already told me about a number of social issues that need to be "fixed" there, even though neither of them has visited yet. They hope to "get involved" to make it a better place. (More like San Francisco! )
After they buy a house, they intend to hire someone to set up and tend a backyard garden for them so they can "grow their own food".
I pity Idaho. The rest of our family laughs at the lunacy.
The top five cities that WA state folk (Seattle/Bellevue/Everett) moved to last year were Phoenix, Dallas, San Diego, DC and Chicago.
Population growth and movement has been going on since the beginning of time. Nobody is to blame.
This is true. People have their own reasons for moving where they do. At one time, alot of people were leaving Georgia. From 1980-now, it's population grew by leaps and bounds.
As a side note, I read alot of National Geographic as a teenager. One particular article I read was about Idaho. The article was from March 1973 "High Stepping Idaho" (I read the article in 2002, when I was 16). One thing the article touched on were transplants complaining about people moving to Idaho.
My older sister and her boyfriend are left-wing San Francisco "progressives" who have bragged for the past 4 decades about "The City" being at the forefront of all positive social changes.
Now, they look around and see what a shiithole they helped create and have decided it's time to move elsewhere to start anew. They have set their sights on Idaho. (I talked them out of Hawaii.)
Sister has already told me about a number of social issues that need to be "fixed" there, even though neither of them has visited yet. They hope to "get involved" to make it a better place. (More like San Francisco! )
After they buy a house, they intend to hire someone to set up and tend a backyard garden for them so they can "grow their own food".
I pity Idaho. The rest of our family laughs at the lunacy.
I was trying to guess why you talked them out of Hawaii, then I saw where you're at .
They do know Idaho has an extremely short growing season, right?
My older sister and her boyfriend are left-wing San Francisco "progressives" who have bragged for the past 4 decades about "The City" being at the forefront of all positive social changes.
Now, they look around and see what a shiithole they helped create and have decided it's time to move elsewhere to start anew. They have set their sights on Idaho. (I talked them out of Hawaii.)
Sister has already told me about a number of social issues that need to be "fixed" there, even though neither of them has visited yet. They hope to "get involved" to make it a better place. (More like San Francisco! )
After they buy a house, they intend to hire someone to set up and tend a backyard garden for them so they can "grow their own food".
I pity Idaho. The rest of our family laughs at the lunacy.
Hah! Good luck with that. Southern Idaho is the most sensible place for agriculture, mostly irrigated high desert along the Snake River Plain. It's flat and dry with few trees. In other words, it looks a lot like California's Central Valley... you know, the place coastal elites deride as "the armpit of California." Now, I think it's beautiful (huge skies, buttes, etc.), but it's not what most outsiders think of when they envision Idaho. The forests and mountains are amazing, but not really suitable for most agriculture beyond seasonal grazing because the growing season is so dang short.
The other thing Bay Area folks don't realize is how small lots are here, especially in/near cities. We have real winters with snow and ice, so living on a big piece of land far away from infrastructure requires a high degree of self-sufficiency. So most people live in a city in relatively dense neighborhoods. Land in these areas is very expensive because so many houses can be built in a small area. Sure, you can find 1+ acre lots with water rights in some places in the TV, but these are $$$$.
Life in the mountains means contending with winter (unlike CA's Coastal Range), whereas life in the city is, well, city life. While they can buy a chunk of farm land and grow their own food, I doubt life-long San Franciscans will enjoy the scenery, politics, and how far it is from everything.
They really need to visit (preferably during both summer and winter!) and get a sense for the lay of the land before making a move.
They have set their sights on Idaho. (I talked them out of Hawaii.)
After they buy a house, they intend to hire someone to set up and tend a backyard garden for them so they can "grow their own food".
I pity Idaho. The rest of our family laughs at the lunacy.
Idaho's a big agricultural state so growing your own food here is common. The Treasure Valley west of Boise is one of the most diverse and productive ag regions in the USA and also includes several Viticultural Area (AVA) for growing wine grapes.
Backyard gardens are hugely popular in Boise. Many people have them and small hobby farms are all over the Boise area. Locally sourced organic food is King here.
It sounds like they would fit into Boise just fine, especially since Boise is a blue/dem city, but any move will be an adjustment. I know many new people in Boise who moved here from the Bay Area.
If they like forests and mountains, Boise will work too. The city is at the base of mountains with forests in sight and a close drive away.
Hah! Good luck with that. Southern Idaho is the most sensible place for agriculture, mostly irrigated high desert along the Snake River Plain. It's flat and dry with few trees. In other words, it looks a lot like California's Central Valley... you know, the place coastal elites deride as "the armpit of California." Now, I think it's beautiful (huge skies, buttes, etc.), but it's not what most outsiders think of when they envision Idaho. The forests and mountains are amazing, but not really suitable for most agriculture beyond seasonal grazing because the growing season is so dang short.
The other thing Bay Area folks don't realize is how small lots are here, especially in/near cities. We have real winters with snow and ice, so living on a big piece of land far away from infrastructure requires a high degree of self-sufficiency. So most people live in a city in relatively dense neighborhoods. Land in these areas is very expensive because so many houses can be built in a small area. Sure, you can find 1+ acre lots with water rights in some places in the TV, but these are $$$$.
Life in the mountains means contending with winter (unlike CA's Coastal Range), whereas life in the city is, well, city life. While they can buy a chunk of farm land and grow their own food, I doubt life-long San Franciscans will enjoy the scenery, politics, and how far it is from everything.
They really need to visit (preferably during both summer and winter!) and get a sense for the lay of the land before making a move.
Idaho has volcanic soil too, which is very good for farming. Grapes can be grown in southern Idaho as well.
Geography is my specialty. I know about Idaho. Most of the state is mountainous. However, it's the Snake River Plain/Treasure Valley where most people are moving to, especially around Boise/Caldwell/Meridian. And those moving to Boise metro aren't there for farming.
Those moving to northern Idaho, most are not doing so for the farming. It's for the lakes, forests, and mountains.
Some people from California move to Idaho and find it suits them well. Bay Area native/MLB player Bill Buckner grew up in Vallejo. He moved to the Boise area after his playing career was done. He died in Boise in 2019. He made it his home, never mind the the climate.
Idaho has volcanic soil too, which is very good for farming. Grapes can be grown in southern Idaho as well.
Geography is my specialty. I know about Idaho. Most of the state is mountainous. However, it's the Snake River Plain/Treasure Valley where most people are moving to, especially around Boise/Caldwell/Meridian. And those moving to Boise metro aren't there for farming.
Those moving to northern Idaho, most are not doing so for the farming. It's for the lakes, forests, and mountains.
Some people from California move to Idaho and find it suits them well. Bay Area native/MLB player Bill Buckner grew up in Vallejo. He moved to the Boise area after his playing career was done. He died in Boise in 2019. He made it his home, never mind the the climate.
There are hobby farms and Ag in North Idaho too, as well as in the narrow mountain valleys scattered around the state.
I think most people who move to Idaho, whether it be in the Boise Metro, Twin Falls, Idaho Falls, Ketchum, North Idaho, are moving here for proximity to the lakes, forests and mountains. All three of these are included within the Boise Metro area as well.
Idaho's a big agricultural state so growing your own food here is common. The Treasure Valley west of Boise is one of the most diverse and productive ag regions in the USA and also includes several Viticultural Area (AVA) for growing wine grapes.
Backyard gardens are hugely popular in Boise. Many people have them and small hobby farms are all over the Boise area. Locally sourced organic food is King here.
It sounds like they would fit into Boise just fine, especially since Boise is a blue/dem city, but any move will be an adjustment. I know many new people in Boise who moved here from the Bay Area.
If they like forests and mountains, Boise will work too. The city is at the base of mountains with forests in sight and a close drive away.
There is a YouTube channel based in southeast Idaho, aptly named Idaho Family Farm. I sometimes watch it. It is also known as Dirtpatcheaven. They do stuff with growing your own food, raising animals, being self-sufficient. It can be done in Idaho.
As for Boise, it is a blue city in an otherwise very Republican state. However, Ada County has over twice as many registered Republicans as Democrats (48,000 registered Democrats vs 100,000 Republicans). Over 100,000 voters are unaffiliated. It's not nearly as blue as the Bay Area. As for forests and mountains, Boise has the foothills nearby, which aren't that much different from the hills of the Bay Area. They rise as high as 6,575 ft over sea level (at Little Deer Point). By comparison, the highest summit in the Bay Area region is 4,265 feet, at Mount Hamilton (around Silicon Valley).
And Boise is said to have derived from the French word for "the woods". Cottonwood trees grow around Boise, making it sort of an oasis in the region. Part of why Ft. Boise was built (from which Boise would grow). Many people don't know what Idaho has.
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(More like San Francisco! 
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