08-19-2013, 08:16 PM
Location: Centennial State
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Company pitches Diagonal Highway monorail to ease Boulder-Longmont commute - Boulder Daily Camera
skyTran Large Station Concept - YouTube
;o FasTracks v2.0? If it's privately-funded I wonder if they can avoid the whole "it's actually going to cost more now" a year or so later after they're partly done constructing the system.
"Referring to the delayed FasTracks line, Coombs said, "If we're going to wait until 2042, maybe we should be looking at alternatives ... To still have a diesel train be our future 30 years from now is not that exciting."
Hrmm, I'm interested in what happens when it snows though. Colorado's weather can be sporadic that close to the mountains. A raised rail line like that, I would hope, is prepared to be Colorado weather's punching bag.
08-19-2013, 08:24 PM
Location: Berkeley Neighborhood, Denver, CO USA
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Stupid.
08-19-2013, 11:24 PM
Location: Centennial State
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davebarnes
Stupid.
Lol, not happy with overhead rails? If it takes traffic away from my daily commute, it's less delays for me. Even if I work the weird shift, I still find people who drive slow in the fast lane, don't use turn signals, TEXT AND DRIVE AND SWERVE, etc.
I'm interested because it might mean more construction on Diagonal which I have to pass over to get to IBM. The bike races are annoying enough. But if I have less bad drivers to deal with I'll be happy to see the construction.
08-20-2013, 08:49 AM
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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It seems reasonable to me, anyone who disagrees should actually try reading the article.
08-20-2013, 11:54 AM
Location: Old Town Longmont
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I have to say I am intrigued by it as well.
08-20-2013, 12:20 PM
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Would be excellent for transportation and just as good of a tourist attraction.
08-21-2013, 04:42 PM
Location: Pittsburgh
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I think it would be ugly to such a beautiful region, but maybe it would provide transportation, low pollution and low noise.
08-22-2013, 02:06 AM
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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davebarnes
Stupid.
Haha, here it is. Anytime someone mentions the word "monorail", unless they are talking about a very short distance (less then a mile) or a very dense area, they lose all credibility.
Simpsons - Monorail - YouTube
08-23-2013, 01:40 PM
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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Meowen
It seems reasonable to me, anyone who disagrees should actually try reading the article.
It seems reasonable to you? Really?
I did read the article, but I should have stopped at the first paragraph.
"Boulder County commuters will have the chance to feel like a regular George Jetson if one company is allowed to build the world's first on-demand rapid-transit maglev monorail along the Diagonal Highway".
Hard to take an article serious, that talks about cartoons in the first sentence. Anyway I'm bored today so I thought I'd break down why this plan is total BS, just for laughs. Starting with this.
By all accounts, the proposed monorail sounds too good to be true, not to mention a solution to the troubled Northwest Rail Line, a long-delayed phase of the FasTracks light rail system that Colorado voters approved in 2004.
Heard the old adage: "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is"?
The first problem with this project. Elevated guideways with large support poles spaced every 60 to 100 feet are not cheap to build, as the article states. No way in hell could this 15 mile system be built for $250 million dollars. This would clearly be a multi-billion dollar project that would make the price of FasTracks look like peanuts.
The second problem. Commuters riding inside of small, futuristic three-person pods that can be called on demand, 24/7, for nonstop service to their destination, is simply not going be cost effective. The fares would have to be considerably higher then $3 $7.50 and even then the taxpayer subsidy would have to be incredible.
The third problem. A system that only goes from point A to point B, is not going to serve the majority of commuters who have to travel to other points in between. This system with its small three-person pods traveling only between two points would do zero to solve the transportation problems along that corridor. It would be nothing except be a colossal waste of tax payer money for absolutely nothing.
The forth problem. On demand Personal Rapid Transit (PRT) which is what this plan is, may have seemed like an awesome idea back in the 1950s and 60s. But in this day and age, with the event of driverless cars, it's just pointless, and a waste of money.
Hopefully this thing gets killed, before any tax payer money is even wasted on the design of it.
08-25-2013, 01:18 PM
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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KaaBoom
It seems reasonable to you? Really?
I did read the article, but I should have stopped at the first paragraph.
"Boulder County commuters will have the chance to feel like a regular George Jetson if one company is allowed to build the world's first on-demand rapid-transit maglev monorail along the Diagonal Highway".
Hard to take an article serious, that talks about cartoons in the first sentence. Anyway I'm bored today so I thought I'd break down why this plan is total BS, just for laughs. Starting with this.
By all accounts, the proposed monorail sounds too good to be true, not to mention a solution to the troubled Northwest Rail Line, a long-delayed phase of the FasTracks light rail system that Colorado voters approved in 2004.
Heard the old adage: "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is"?
The first problem with this project. Elevated guideways with large support poles spaced every 60 to 100 feet are not cheap to build, as the article states. No way in hell could this 15 mile system be built for $250 million dollars. This would clearly be a multi-billion dollar project that would make the price of FasTracks look like peanuts.
The second problem. Commuters riding inside of small, futuristic three-person pods that can be called on demand, 24/7, for nonstop service to their destination, is simply not going be cost effective. The fares would have to be considerably higher then $3 $7.50 and even then the taxpayer subsidy would have to be incredible.
The third problem. A system that only goes from point A to point B, is not going to serve the majority of commuters who have to travel to other points in between. This system with its small three-person pods traveling only between two points would do zero to solve the transportation problems along that corridor. It would be nothing except be a colossal waste of tax payer money for absolutely nothing.
The forth problem. On demand Personal Rapid Transit (PRT) which is what this plan is, may have seemed like an awesome idea back in the 1950s and 60s. But in this day and age, with the event of driverless cars, it's just pointless, and a waste of money.
Hopefully this thing gets killed, before any tax payer money is even wasted on the design of it.
I guess you didn't really read the article because it clearly states "..is neither subsidized nor funded by tax dollars in any way, Williamson said. He contended that even if the venture was to fail after implementation, the poles could easily be plucked up and forgotten, with no effect on the taxpayer.
"There's really no risk on anyone except the company and its investors," he said."
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People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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