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Old 09-08-2008, 07:23 AM
 
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I think there are only 198 filipinos in Buffalo! So for adobo, lumpia and sinigang you are best going to Toronto!
Haha! Yeah, I think so, too. It's been long since I had bulalo. Tsk.
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Buffalo NY
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Communist. lol.
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Old 09-13-2008, 07:48 PM
 
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Oriental? Like a vase or a rug? who says Oriental referring to a human?
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:07 PM
 
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The original poster is right-American women are lazy and turn into fat blobs growing on your couch after you marry them...just saying it from EXPERIENCE.
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Old 11-19-2013, 03:43 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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What's not to love:Hardworking, Kind, Intelligent...Sounds good to me, I'd love to have You for a Neighbor!
funny thing about stereotyping - when it's positive things, society doesn't care, when it's negative things, society will crucify you
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Old 11-19-2013, 05:31 PM
 
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The idea that Asian people are smarter than non-Asian people is a myth.

What drives that myth are the high numbers of overachieving, highly intelligent, wealthy, educated Asians who migrate to the US. These people are the far right side of the Asian bell curve. The engineers, PhDs, etc. Only the cream of the crop make it to the US. Americans see these top 1% of Asians and project all Asians to be that way.

The average Asian is still back home picking rice or turning wrenches or sewing clothes in a sweatshop.

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Old 11-20-2013, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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The idea that Asian people are smarter than non-Asian people is a myth.

What drives that myth are the high numbers of overachieving, highly intelligent, wealthy, educated Asians who migrate to the US. These people are the far right side of the Asian bell curve. The engineers, PhDs, etc. Only the cream of the crop make it to the US. Americans see these top 1% of Asians and project all Asians to be that way.

The average Asian is still back home picking rice or turning wrenches or sewing clothes in a sweatshop.
I disagree. A large percentage of all legal immigrants are well educated professionals because US immigration policy favors them. Asians just happen to be much more noticeable than Australians or Austrians.

There are also a number of Asian groups who don't fit your stereotype of highly-educated professionals. Significant numbers of immigrants from SE Asia (Vietnamese, Laotians, Cambodians, etc) have come as political refugees. Many Koreans and Filipinos have come to the US as spouses and relatives of American servicemen. Many Chinese immigrants to the US have also come as relatives of citizens.

What probably distinguishes Asian immigrants from previous and current groups of immigrants is that Asians generally have a strong tradition of respect for learning. In that way they are much like the Eastern European Jews who came to the US in the 1890s and 1900s, who may have been poor and barely literate themselves, but who pushed their children to use education to climb the economic ladder.

Finally, I think that all immigrants are different from their "average" countrymen because it takes a great deal of ambition and courage to pull up stakes and move to an entirely new place, especially when you live in a more traditional society where people have lived in the same small area for hundreds, perhaps even thousands, of years. We Americans are much more used to mobility than are most people elsewhere.
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Old 11-20-2013, 07:51 AM
 
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I think both of the last 2 posts are right or are generally so. It is more complex than people realize. With this said, I think the OP and others of origin from the variety of Asian backgrounds would be fine in the area.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:58 AM
 
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I disagree. A large percentage of all legal immigrants are well educated professionals because US immigration policy favors them. Asians just happen to be much more noticeable than Australians or Austrians.
You aren't disagreeing - you're just adding additional information. I never wrote that Asians were the ONLY immigrants from high functioning backgrounds.

Also, about being noticed, realize Asians (including southwest Asians) comprise about HALF the world's population. Statistically, the would account for a much larger component of US immigrants.

Because as you noted, US policy favors the highly educated, monied legal immigrants, the immigrants who don't fit these characteristics are often illegal, south of the border immigrants who are destitute, agrarian, and have no more than a 5th grade education.

Finally, the "culture" you wrote about is a result of the bonding from being in a foriegn land. It just so happens those who are bonding also happen to be high functioning in the case of these Asians. Hispanics from Mexico bond too - but they're at the other extreme. (Many of the PhDs and engineers from Mexico stayed there.)
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:51 AM
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The idea that Asian people are smarter than non-Asian people is a myth.

What drives that myth are the high numbers of overachieving, highly intelligent, wealthy, educated Asians who migrate to the US. These people are the far right side of the Asian bell curve. The engineers, PhDs, etc. Only the cream of the crop make it to the US. Americans see these top 1% of Asians and project all Asians to be that way.

The average Asian is still back home picking rice or turning wrenches or sewing clothes in a sweatshop.

In NYC, high schools with a large percentage of asian students in "poor zipcodes" (where asian immigrants are often illegal and are restaurant workers, garment shop workers and in construction) have significantly higher test scores than other NYC high schools (expect for the selective-exam entry specialized high schools) with low asian numbers. No bias-selection there.
In addition, about 35% of the asian students in the specialized high schools are eligibile for free school luinches, due to their (usually uneducated) parents being working poor.

Its not genetic however, and it is cultural. Doesn't take much scrutiny to see that.

Go to chinatown in Manhattan, Flushing or Sunset park and you'll soon experience the weakness of your argument. That same argument is put forth by academics interested (for professional purposes) in denying that culture is the most important component in academic success. Poeple like you spreading it give it currency that is not justified. Its as weak as the " 'oriental' is offensive because it only ever applied to rugs/vases" - hogwash. "Oriental" is offensive because of the context and way it was used as an epithet in white America for decades.

Its not PC to admit cultural practices are the largest single influence on academic success. And the thorn of low-income asian academic success is especially troublesome to the PC recieved wisdom - generally glossed over and ignored.
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