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Old 04-21-2013, 01:26 PM
 
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Almost twice. Residential electricity prices, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA):
Rank 1, Idaho cents per kWh 8.0
Rank 43, California cents per kWh 15.2
From: The Price Of Electricity In Your State : Planet Money : NPR
Its much more than 15.2 in California. Maybe you can get away with 15.2 if you live in a studio apartment, don't have any stuff, and don't have AC. The higher tiers get over over $0.30/kWh in the summer.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:42 PM
 
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We certainly need more clean energy sources then. What about states with populations and demands for energy similar to CA?
Idaho's energy is 92% renewable. Thati is evidence against the fact that CA is expensive due to not using Fossil Fuels argument? More renewables please. 82% being hydroelectric. http://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=ID
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:52 PM
 
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Almost twice. Residential electricity prices, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA):
Rank 1, Idaho cents per kWh 8.0
Rank 43, California cents per kWh 15.2
From: The Price Of Electricity In Your State : Planet Money : NPR
Thank you for posting this! This is what I've suspected for a long time. In Seattle, electricity is so cheap, entire apartment buildings are heated with electric baseboard heat. That's unthinkable in CA. I've noticed electric bills in CA are much higher, but didn't have the stats available, to compare. WA is 8.2, one of the cheapest in the US.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:55 PM
 
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In the source I gave about Calfornia's use of electricity please note that a Coal burning plant near Bakersfield recently converted to biomass fuel for burning. .
Duly noted!
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:55 PM
 
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Fortunately we are switching over from expensive fossil fuels to less expensive alternative clean sources of fuel.
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:01 PM
 
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LA imports part of its power from the Navajo Generating Station in northern Arizona, which is coal-fired.
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:02 PM
 
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Oh. Like I said about 8% of current electrical usage in CA is from coal fired plants. They aren't all gone yet. We can't do it overnight, it takes time to make the necessary capital investments.
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:14 PM
 
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Fortunately we are switching over from expensive fossil fuels to less expensive alternative clean sources of fuel.
Since when are "alternative" sources less expensive? If they were cheaper, the government wouldn't have to force people to use them.
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:20 PM
 
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Since ID has 82% of it's energy from the dams they have, and they have the cheapest energy. It's your own evidence, you said we pay nearly twice as much in energy. And I checked out Idaho, and it's hydroelectric, which is alternative and not fossil fuel. The government isn't forcing anyone to do anything. It's voluntary.
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:23 PM
 
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Since ID has 82% of it's energy from the dams they have, and they have the cheapest energy. It's your own evidence, you said we pay nearly twice as much in energy. And I checked out Idaho, and it's hydroelectric, which is alternative and not fossil fuel. The government isn't forcing anyone to do anything. It's voluntary.
Really?

California Raises Renewable Energy Requirement - WSJ.com
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