Second county votes to secede from CA (Redding, Yreka: 2013, taxes)

[18Montclair]

Modoc and Siskiyou counties.

Second county votes to secede from California | Al Jazeera America

[Gentoo]

Over the years, many rural residents have been frustrated by federal environmental laws restricting logging and other forestry activities.

Unless they plan on also seceding from the USA, this will still apply. How does that glaringly obvious fact escape them?

[cb73]

It's my understanding that people in those counties are pretty much ignored by the "more important" parts of California and see themselves as paying taxes to support stuff that doesn't help them. Plus they don't see eye to eye with some of the California environmentalists. I have family in Yreka and hear lots of complaints from them against "those California people".

We have other cities that vote for things like "nuclear-free zone" and such, and everyone knows it has no real meaning, and no one has a problem with it. If the counties want to declare themselves to be free of California, what does it hurt?

It's unlikely that it will ever truly happen anyway. Don't they have to go through Congress or something?

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by cb73

It's my understanding that people in those counties are pretty much ignored by the "more important" parts of California and see themselves as paying taxes to support stuff that doesn't help them. Plus they don't see eye to eye with some of the California environmentalists. I have family in Yreka and hear lots of complaints from them against "those California people".

We have other cities that vote for things like "nuclear-free zone" and such, and everyone knows it has no real meaning, and no one has a problem with it. If the counties want to declare themselves to be free of California, what does it hurt?

It's unlikely that it will ever truly happen anyway. Don't they have to go through Congress or something?

The tax thing is almost humorous. They receive more from the state than they pay in taxes so the way I look at it, let them go. That way the rest won't have to pay for them. The idea of a mostly rural state hasn't been viable since the days of the wild wild west. Medford or Redding would make decent capitals but they chose Yreka??? Then there's congress. Congress would have no real logical reason to say no other than it throwing the current balance into disarray with the addition of two more senators and a couple of congressmen. Congress would never vote on it though. They are going to shut down on Monday and with the gridlock that caused this circus, worrying about some rural part of the west coast that's far from anything is the least of their concerns. There's a better chance of Texas and California seceding from the union before there will be a state of Jefferson. We know how remote a chance the former is, the latter will forever remain just and idea and a wish IMO.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Isn't this a redundant thread?

[BlackShoe]

Originally Posted by BayAreaHillbilly

Isn't this a redundant thread?

Yes, which goes to show that this issue is not going away. These Northern California folks are serious about this, it is not just light hearted tongue-in-cheek humor. Last Friday one of the leaders of the movement was a guest on the John and Ken radio program, KFI 640 AM. This gentleman presented some very good points. One of them was that when Jefferson became business friendly by easing restrictions and regulations, many companies might relocate there instead of leaving the state, as they are now doing. This would create many jobs, greatly increase tax revenues, and enhance the overall prosperity of the area. Despite unfounded fears, environmental precautions would be observed, no company would be allowed to come in and wreck and despoil the area.

[Bulldogdad]

Been going on since the 19th century. Isn't gonna happen. As much as a state of Jefferson would be nice.

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by BlackShoe

Yes, which goes to show that this issue is not going away. These Northern California folks are serious about this, it is not just light hearted tongue-in-cheek humor. Last Friday one of the leaders of the movement was a guest on the John and Ken radio program, KFI 640 AM. This gentleman presented some very good points. One of them was that when Jefferson became business friendly by easing restrictions and regulations, many companies might relocate there instead of leaving the state, as they are now doing. This would create many jobs, greatly increase tax revenues, and enhance the overall prosperity of the area. Despite unfounded fears, environmental precautions would be observed, no company would be allowed to come in and wreck and despoil the area.

I see a couple of problems with this; the first is, most of the restrictions are regulations they seem to have a problem with are federal ones effecting federal land. How does becoming a new state within the USA make that go away? the second is, businesses don't just pick up and move to a new area blindly. There must be some resources there like an educated population to do the jobs that will be brought in. There must be a proper infrastructure as well. In what way does a mostly rural area provide that? The people of "Jefferson" don't seem to realize the reason they like their area so much right now is because most of the elements they don't like are concentrated in other parts of their respective states hundreds of miles from them. That'll all change if they become a state and start to grow.

[nullgeo]

Originally Posted by BlackShoe

Yes, which goes to show that this issue is not going away. These Northern California folks are serious about this, it is not just light hearted tongue-in-cheek humor. Last Friday one of the leaders of the movement was a guest on the John and Ken radio program, KFI 640 AM. This gentleman presented some very good points. One of them was that when Jefferson became business friendly by easing restrictions and regulations, many companies might relocate there instead of leaving the state, as they are now doing. This would create many jobs, greatly increase tax revenues, and enhance the overall prosperity of the area. Despite unfounded fears, environmental precautions would be observed, no company would be allowed to come in and wreck and despoil the area.

Ah, AM Radio talk ... great source for measuring the future ... and fleeing the Bay areas and south in droves for the far north? What a refreshing new take on the exodus!

[DaleK]

....and we may be adding a third county looking towards forming a new State of Jefferson with Shasta County examining this issue. Redding council puts Jefferson in the spotlight tonight » Redding Record Searchlight