California is NOT the worst when it comes to homelessness (Los Angeles: neighborhoods, camp)

[MarciaMarshaMarcia]

Why Vermont?? Isn't that a very wealthy state? How do they survive winter?

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by lookintomove15

Wow I thought for sure California would be the worst when it comes to homelessness. I was wrong. I just found this study on the internet that ranks all the states by it's homeless rate (homeless people divided by total population). California was in the top 10 but not the absolute worst. Here's what I found.

State Homeless Rate per 10,000 population
1. Hawaii 48.7
2. New York 40.8
3. Nevada 37.2
4. Massachusetts 31.5
5. Oregon 30.6
6. California 29.4
7. Washington 26.1
8. Vermont 24.9
9. Alaska 24.2
10. Florida 20.9

California was #6 in it's homeless rate.

This could very well be true. The thing about it is I suspect it's really tough to get an accurate count of the homeless in the first place.

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

According to a HUD study:

"States with high and low homeless rates are all over the country. The highest rates of homelessness among states are in Hawaii (465 per 100,000), followed by New York (399) and California (367).

The lowest homeless counts per capita come in Mississippi (81 per 100,000), Indiana (94) and Kansas (94)."

Which states have the highest levels of homelessness? - The Washington Post

So it seems the common denominator for low rates of homelessness is lower cost housing.

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by thisplacesucks

Why Vermont?? Isn't that a very wealthy state? How do they survive winter?

No. Vermont is ranks only a bit above the middle in terms of income and the general cost of living there is above average as well.


List of U.S. states by income - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by mysticaltyger

So it seems the common denominator for low rates of homelessness is lower cost housing.

yep - Reno has a large homeless population but it would be much larger if not for an abundance of crappy motels with rooms that rent for $100-$150 a week.

[lookintomove15]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

Yep, San Francisco is BAD!. San Diego isn't much better. You see them way out in the residential areas at busy intersections with signs. You see them in many suburbs in much the way way. Both San Francisco and San Diego have areas where they concentrate services for the homeless but the numbers are just that high.

Alot of the homeless in San Diego sleep in the city's canyons.

Canyon Encampments Nuisance to Residents | San Diego Reader#

SD has the perfect weather for it too!!

[lookintomove15]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

yep - Reno has a large homeless population but it would be much larger if not for an abundance of crappy motels with rooms that rent for $100-$150 a week.

Provo, UT used to have one of those type motels about 15 years ago. A room would go for about $17 a night.

Hotel Roberts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In later years, Hotel Roberts fell into serious disrepair, with profound structural and water damage, and was largely known as a residence for transients. Neglect by the owners and lack of community support to maintain the building led to its demolition in 2004."

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by lookintomove15

Provo, UT used to have one of those type motels about 15 years ago. A room would go for about $17 a night.

Hotel Roberts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In later years, Hotel Roberts fell into serious disrepair, with profound structural and water damage, and was largely known as a residence for transients. Neglect by the owners and lack of community support to maintain the building led to its demolition in 2004."

Every few months you hear about them shutting down one of the weekly motels in Reno for health/safety violations and it's sad because almost every time among the occupants is an elderly couple who has lived there for years and have cats or dogs and end up with no where to live and no place to keep their pets. Reno has a huge number of crappy motels along 4th St, they were popular when everyone went to get a divorce in Reno and had to set up residence there for 6 weeks, but that ended many years ago and now they are just nasty weeklies, but they do serve a purpose and are cheap enough to keep a good number of people off the streets

[Gentoo]

Originally Posted by lookintomove15

Alot of the homeless in San Diego sleep in the city's canyons.

Canyon Encampments Nuisance to Residents | San Diego Reader#

SD has the perfect weather for it too!!

I this is because San Diego still has canyons. I think the most may be around freeways. Get on most elevated freeways around San Diego and there will be homeless people who have set up home under the platform.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by Gentoo

I this is because San Diego still has canyons. I think the most may be around freeways. Get on most elevated freeways around San Diego and there will be homeless people who have set up home under the platform.

They booted everybody out of the Jungle in San Jose, and now every overpass is a concrete Jungle.