are new gun laws really what the people of CA want? (Orland: legal, ranking)

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

No, I insulted the men who use these kinds of rifles as compensation. I have military training in firearms but now that I'm a civilian, a firearm is neither required nor desired. I studied martial arts and I've used it in real life application, that's all I need. If you feel defenseless without your big black compensation tool, I suggest you learn martial arts.

So your advice for a senior is to learn martial arts to protect themself?

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by i'm not a cookie

I want more restrictive gun laws, I'm so DAMN sick of everyone's love affair with the second amendment.

California has all the restrictive laws that democrats can dream of already, it doesn't make a difference.

[neutrino78x]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

So your advice for a senior is to learn martial arts to protect themself?

Sure, why not? My instructor's instructor passed away a few years ago but he was still doing ITF Taekwondo in his 80s.

[neutrino78x]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

California has all the restrictive laws that democrats can dream of already, it doesn't make a difference.

Not really. For example, we wanted to ban all semiautomatic rifles, but we didn't do it right (we just passed a law that banned a series of cosmetic issues). The law should simply say "from now on, no semiautomatic rifle can be sold in the state of California". You can be on the terrorist watch list or the no fly list and still legally get a firearm. The gun show loophole is still present in many states. You can be treated for depression, PTSD etc and still legally get a firearm. You can be banned from buying firearms yet still live with someone who has firearms in the home.

There are still many things to be fixed.

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

Sure, why not? My instructor's instructor passed away a few years ago but he was still doing ITF Taekwondo in his 80s.

I love your realistic and obtainable approach to self defense for America's seniors and disabled.

[neutrino78x]

of course there is Ip Chun who is 84. Ip Chun is a grandmaster of Wing Chun. This is the son of the man who taught Wing Chun to someone you may have heard of: Bruce Lee.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6oPgV0tJrM

[neutrino78x]

This sensei in Germany is 90 and teaches Karate to others his age.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WGBrxNNTVE

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

Not really. For example, we wanted to ban all semiautomatic rifles, but we didn't do it right (we just passed a law that banned a series of cosmetic issues). The law should simply say "from now on, no semiautomatic rifle can be sold in the state of California". You can be on the terrorist watch list or the no fly list and still legally get a firearm. The gun show loophole is still present in many states. You can be treated for depression, PTSD etc and still legally get a firearm. You can be banned from buying firearms yet still live with someone who has firearms in the home.

There are still many things to be fixed.

So now we are taking guns away from people without afflictions because a roommate has one all without due process. I wonder, have you even read the constituion?

California already bans the rifles used in the attacks, has done so for about a decade now. Didn't prevent the San Bernardino attack, hasn't reduced crime outside of the national average.

All you have is an irrational fear that isn't supported by statistics, the constituion, the Supreme Court or the founders of our country and that fear does to you what it does to all other statist; it makes you believe you know what is best for everyone else and you want to use the police power of the government to impose your will onto everyone else.

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by neutrino78x

This sensei in Germany is 90 and teaches Karate to others his age.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WGBrxNNTVE

So you are doubling down on seniors learning martial arts to fend off armed attackers?

Maybe your onto a new market segment, martial arts for women in wheelchairs over 60, is sure the investment dollars will come rolling in.

[neutrino78x]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

So now we are taking guns away from people without afflictions because a roommate has one all without due process.

No one said that. We're talking about that shooting at Sandyhook. I think we can all agree that the son should not have had access to firearms. Yet there he was with his mom who was stockpiling them.

California already bans the rifles used in the attacks, has done so for about a decade now.

Well, not exactly. Like I said, the law should simply say "no semiautomatic rifles can be sold or transported in the state of California" or something like that. Not a list of cosmetic features.

All you have is an irrational fear

Nope. I was Navy and I am qualified on weapons more powerful than the one used at Orlando. I also have training in the use of such weapons in close quarters aboard the submarine and other similar scenarios.