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Old 01-30-2019, 09:42 PM
 
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[quote=RationalExpectations;54036624]Some posters call for an elimination of for-profit entities involved in health insurance and health care delivery, mistakenly believing "non-profit" is a synonym for lower cost. It isn't. Those people invariably talk about high compensation of for-profit executives, and somehow mistakenly think non-profit entities do not compete in the marketplace for executive talent and somehow pay less.

See for example Kaiser Permanente. http://www.kp.org. Kaiser Permanente is a consortium of both for-profit and not-for-profit integrated health care & health insurance entities with over 21,000 physicians and nearly 210,000 total employees.

But let's just look at the non-profit.

As of December 31, 2017, the non-profit Kaiser Foundation Health Plan and Kaiser Foundation Hospitals entities reported a combined $3.8 billion in net income on $72.7 billion in operating revenues.

From its most recent IRS Form 990 for the 2016 calendar year (again, this is for the NON-PROFIT). The data are public information. I'm showing just top employee compensation as reported by the non-profit entity. I'm just including TITLE, NAME, HOURS PER WEEK WORKED, COMPENSATION and OTHER COMPENSATION.

Sooo.... does the following non-profit compensation look low to you? Does it look efficient to you?


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Old 01-31-2019, 10:48 AM
 
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Well that just destroyed any point about non-profits supposedly being efficient and low cost.
 
Old 01-31-2019, 11:45 AM
 
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Well that just destroyed any point about non-profits supposedly being efficient and low cost.
Imagine the salaries and benefits if the Govt ran them.
 
Old 01-31-2019, 04:36 PM
 
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Imagine the salaries and benefits if the Govt ran them.
We don't have to guess. VA salaries are public information.

https://www.fedsdatacenter.com/federal-pay-rates/
 
Old 03-26-2019, 05:15 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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This should go over like a lead balloon.

The Trump administration is hardening its legal position toward Obamacare, arguing now that the entire law is unconstitutional
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...326-story.html
 
Old 03-26-2019, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Murrieta California
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This should go over like a lead balloon.

The Trump administration is hardening its legal position toward Obamacare, arguing now that the entire law is unconstitutional
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...326-story.html
Only with the absurd liberal Socialists.
 
Old 05-04-2019, 12:54 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Let's hope that they don't succeed with this.

White House lawyers aim to scrap the entire Affordable Care Act. One critic says that’s ‘legal nuttery’:

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...503-story.html
 
Old 05-04-2019, 11:01 PM
 
Location: "Silicon Valley" (part of San Francisco Bay Area, California, USA)
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Only with the absurd liberal Socialists.

It doesn't make any sense to claim that subsidies for health care are unconstitutional. By that logic, MediCare is also unconstitutional. Do you want MediCare when you grow old?

The mandate may or may not be unconstitutional. But subsidies so people can get private insurance even if they're too poor are definitely NOT unconstitutional. It would make no sense whatsoever for them to be unconstitutional.
 
Old 06-06-2019, 05:13 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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"Americans in a household where someone has a serious medical condition are twice as likely as healthier Americans to say they’ve cut spending on food, clothing and other household items to pay for care, according to a nationwide poll of people with job-based coverage conducted by The Times in partnership with the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation, or KFF.

One in eight covered workers in a household where someone is chronically ill reported having declared bankruptcy because of medical bills."

Soaring insurance deductibles and high drug prices hit sick Americans with a ‘double whammy’:
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...606-story.html
 
Old 06-16-2019, 11:18 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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"Twenty months ago, frustrated after attempts to repeal Obamacare fell apart in the Republican-controlled Senate, Trump pledged to use executive power to do what Congress failed to legislate. An executive order set in motion regulations to promote “healthcare choice and competition across the United States.”

The cumulative effect could erode a core principle of the ACA: ensuring that people can rely on their health insurance if they get sick, and to spread the costs of illness widely."


Rule is major shift for ACA:
https://www.latimes.com/business/la-...614-story.html
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