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Old 12-13-2021, 08:07 PM
 
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If portable military hospitals or workers are needed, they'll be brought in. It's hard to anticipate where the needs will be, except San Francisco seems to have particularly cooperative residents. I don't know if the government is concerned about frustrated healthcare workers quitting their jobs, but that should be a concern and a reason to keep the population from needing urgent care. It of course also is cheaper to preclude the use of services.

SF is 34% Asian and from what I have seen, this demographic generally seems more open to wearing masks.. SF is 2nd only to NYC in regard to population density. It's a crowded city and people in SF might take that into consideration in regard to taking precautions to lower their odds of getting infected

 
Old 12-13-2021, 08:21 PM
 
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You mean to tell me the lunatics in OC were wrong that not wearing masks DOES actually spread more virus ? BBBut these guys had big beer bellies and talked American tough and were so sure of themselves. How can these people be wrong ?
 
Old 12-13-2021, 08:25 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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San Francisco seems to have particularly cooperative residents. I don't know if the government is concerned about frustrated healthcare workers quitting their jobs...
This article is a few months old, but the confirmed virus rate and death rate is still astoundingly low in S.F. County, compared to every other county in California. (Why can't more people in L.A. be like this?)

“The behavior of the people, which can only be legislated so much, tended to comport more with the major public health recommendations, more than anywhere in the country,” says Bob Wachter, who chairs the Department of Medicine at the University of California, San Francisco (UCSF). “There was a general consensus that this was serious and virtually no pushback on the kinds of restrictions that made the most sense from a public health standpoint.”

Yellow-and-blue safety warnings are ubiquitous all over town. San Francisco has benefited from a unified political response and a public health department considered one of the best in the nation. “There are many states, frankly, that don’t have the level of expertise that the San Francisco health department has,” says Art Reingold, an epidemiologist at the University of California, Berkeley.

https://www.governing.com/now/how-sa...e-down-to-zero
 
Old 12-13-2021, 08:38 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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You mean to tell me the lunatics in OC were wrong that not wearing masks DOES actually spread more virus ? BBBut these guys had big beer bellies and talked American tough and were so sure of themselves. How can these people be wrong ?
Their case rate is the same or lower than many counties that have had a mask mandate since
 
Old 12-13-2021, 09:00 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Too bad our governor isn't more intelligent like Colorado's.

‘The emergency is over,’ according to Governor Jared Polis, who explained on Colorado Matters on Friday that vaccines have changed the COVID-19 landscape, rendering masks useful but not required in the state’s fight against the pandemic.

Everybody had more than enough opportunity to get vaccinated. Hopefully it's been at your pharmacy, your grocery store, a bus near you, [or at] big events. At this point, if you haven't been vaccinated, it's really your own darn fault.

Those who get sick, it's almost entirely their own darn fault. I don't want to say that nobody [will get the virus if they’re] vaccinated, but it's very rare. Just to put it in perspective, of the about 1400 people hospitalized, less than 200 (or 16 percent) are vaccinated. And many of them are older or have other conditions. Eighty-four percent of the people in our hospitals are unvaccinated, and they absolutely had every chance to get vaccinated.

https://www.cpr.org/2021/12/10/inter...andates-covid/
 
Old 12-13-2021, 09:59 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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If portable military hospitals or workers are needed, they'll be brought in. It's hard to anticipate where the needs will be, except San Francisco seems to have particularly cooperative residents. I don't know if the government is concerned about frustrated healthcare workers quitting their jobs, but that should be a concern and a reason to keep the population from needing urgent care. It of course also is cheaper to preclude the use of services.

Ok, then why the cry about full hospitals if these portable ones are available. They aren't doing it. These tents are stacked like cord wood on our local bases. Must not be a big concern.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 10:27 PM
 
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Ok, then why the cry about full hospitals if these portable ones are available. They aren't doing it. These tents are stacked like cord wood on our local bases. Must not be a big concern.

I think the idea is to not let the situation get to the point where portable tent type hospitals are needed.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 10:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I think the idea is to not let the situation get to the point where portable tent type hospitals are needed.
Completely agree. But, this mask mandate? Come on. They just can't admit the vaccine wasn't what they thought it was and are desperate about the numbers.



"We have to do everything we can" Going backwards vs admitting it wasn't the cure they said it was.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 10:46 PM
 
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Too bad our governor isn't more intelligent like Colorado's.

‘The emergency is over,’ according to Governor Jared Polis, who explained on Colorado Matters on Friday that vaccines have changed the COVID-19 landscape, rendering masks useful but not required in the state’s fight against the pandemic.

Everybody had more than enough opportunity to get vaccinated. Hopefully it's been at your pharmacy, your grocery store, a bus near you, [or at] big events. At this point, if you haven't been vaccinated, it's really your own darn fault.

Those who get sick, it's almost entirely their own darn fault. I don't want to say that nobody [will get the virus if they’re] vaccinated, but it's very rare. Just to put it in perspective, of the about 1400 people hospitalized, less than 200 (or 16 percent) are vaccinated. And many of them are older or have other conditions. Eighty-four percent of the people in our hospitals are unvaccinated, and they absolutely had every chance to get vaccinated.

https://www.cpr.org/2021/12/10/inter...andates-covid/



Next year our current govenor is up for re election and the voters will have their say if he keeps his job for a 2nd term. But, there has to a electable in this state alternative on the ballot running against Newson, otherwise he keeps his job. For those backing the ill fated recall, all that you seemed to have accomplished was helping add $$ to Newsom's campaign war chest and quite possibly leaving Newsom in a stronger position in going into the election year.
 
Old 12-14-2021, 12:11 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Next year our current govenor is up for re election and the voters will have their say if he keeps his job for a 2nd term. But, there has to a electable in this state alternative on the ballot running against Newson, otherwise he keeps his job. For those backing the ill fated recall, all that you seemed to have accomplished was helping add $$ to Newsom's campaign war chest and quite possibly leaving Newsom in a stronger position in going into the election year.

Newsom isn't going anywhere unless a Democrat or well know independent challenges him.
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