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View Poll Results: Stay Canadian or become American?
FIGHT FOR CANADA! 65 64.36%
Become an American 36 35.64%
Voters: 101. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-21-2014, 11:59 AM
 
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I think you are right. North American hockey at the top pro level doesn't belong to us anymore. It's run out of New York entirely according to the imperatives of the American market. Canada is good to provide cold cash and good players but that's about it. They *allow* us to have seven teams to pacify us and maintain the illusion that it is still our game. Case in point: no Canadian team has won the Stanley cup in 20 years (soon to be 21) which is supposed to be for the CANADIAN club championship of hockey.
I was rooting for the Habs, but the the Rangers look pretty deadly. As long as the Kings don't win the championship, I really hate LA.

Though the Stanley Cup hasn't been solely a Canadian club championship since 1914.
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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What about bilingualism? How would you expect Quebec to exist politically and culturally in a nation that is unilingual English and makes no effort to accommodate the French language? I argue against the idea that the French fact in today's Quebec is at all in danger, but separatist rhetoric would be alot more compelling in such a situation. I happen to be a Canadian nationalist and am attached to this nation, its institutions, its history, and its culture. In any civilized setting I would exert pressure through democratic institutions, like Canadians generally do. The ethnic conflict and fight for secession in Quebec has gone down, with significant bad blood on either side, 100% non-violently for over 40 years because Canadians value civilized debate and trust our democratic institutions to be fair places to address these kinds social questions, with no need to resort to violence. But if we're talking about some awful reality where the only options are accept an invasion with no democratic rights to political resistance against it, or resist through violence, I would resist, that kind of offense needs to be responded to and sanctioned. I would use my American citizenship and near invisibility as a foreigner to go on road trips and blow up government infrastructure and pipelines with homemade explosives in out of the way areas no one knew I was visiting with ingredients bought in several different states. I'd do things like burn down your local small town post office in the middle of the night and drive immediately into another state without anyone ever having any idea I'd ever been anywhere near there. Enough domestic terrorists like me in the American homeland would be an intolerable political pressure, and not one you could throw jet planes at.
Don't worry, you sociopathic, freedom-hating, anarchistic, socialist, communist, Marxist, foreigner (did I use enough adjectives?) maniac.

The NSA satellites have tracked you down and CIA pacification teams are closing in on you as you read this.

YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED AND YOU WILL EMBRACE AND BECOME 'MURRICAN.

FREEDOM!!!

(HEHEHE. I'm sorry I couldn't resist. I'm just kidding.)
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:17 PM
 
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No americans, in Soviet North America, Canada annexes you. How about we take Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire instead?
New Hampshire is actually pretty right wing. Still has death penalty. Not sure if NH would be interested in joining Canada.

I ask the question on the Maine forum and it seems less than 10% like the idea of becoming Canadians - high gas price is a turn off for example.

It is silly to think New England is somehow similar to Canada. They may be liberal, but to accept all the Canadian taxes and nanny state mindset is a different matter.
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:22 PM
 
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people actually think Canada has a chance to "fight" in case of an American invasion, LOL. Canada will be annexed within 48 hours if it really happens.

People keep using the 1812 war as evidence that Canada somehow can defend itself. Really? In 1812, the US was still a weak country, smaller than most European countries; and Canada won the war because the much powerful British fought. It was never a Canada vs. US war. It is a UK-US war which happened on the land of today's Canada. To expect getting anywhere closer to Washing DC with some imaginary torch is simply day dreamining.

Even Japan can take Canada if it wants, not to mention the US.
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, QC, Canada
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people actually think Canada has a chance to "fight" in case of an American invasion, LOL. Canada will be annexed within 48 hours if it really happens.

People keep using the 1812 war as evidence that Canada somehow can defend itself. Really? In 1812, the US was still a weak country, smaller than most European countries; and Canada won the war because the much powerful British fought. It was never a Canada vs. US war. It is a UK-US war which happened on the land of today's Canada. To expect getting anywhere closer to Washing DC with some imaginary torch is simply day dreamining.

Even Japan can take Canada if it wants, not to mention the US.
I don't think anybody here actually thinks Canada stands a *fighting* chance, just that they would deliberately be a really big pain in the ass internally.
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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We'd do what any self-respecting country does when it is invaded: we'd blow up your bridges, fly planes into your buildings, seduce your soldiers, poison your drinking water and toss a spear through the heart of your president. All undercover because, after all, you claim you can't tell us apart.

So your hypothetical scenario wouldn't happen because who needs an enemy like that on your own borders?

I'm a pacifist personally but even pacifists have been known to pick favourites.

In the end you'd claim victory and go home with your tails between your legs.
LOL. Mobilize the troops! Who's getting the beer?
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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people actually think Canada has a chance to "fight" in case of an American invasion, LOL. Canada will be annexed within 48 hours if it really happens.

People keep using the 1812 war as evidence that Canada somehow can defend itself. Really? In 1812, the US was still a weak country, smaller than most European countries; and Canada won the war because the much powerful British fought. It was never a Canada vs. US war. It is a UK-US war which happened on the land of today's Canada. To expect getting anywhere closer to Washing DC with some imaginary torch is simply day dreamining.

Even Japan can take Canada if it wants, not to mention the US.
1812? No one here posted here about the war of 1812, except you. When Canadians do bring it up, it is only to remind Americans, that they don't win every war, and the only war they had with Upper Canada they lost. That's all.It is done in jest. Something our horrid PM failed to understand with his attempt to tug at heart strings that just aren't there.
If you actually believe that we are so stupid as to think that anyone here or anyone in Canada thinks the war of 1812 has ANY bearing on what would happen today…..then I'm at a loss for words. ( OK not really I could go on and on and on )

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Old 05-21-2014, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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To the OP.

Fight to the death.
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Old 05-21-2014, 01:01 PM
 
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To the OP.

Fight to the death.
I'll join you, and I'm American(though I lived in Canada for four years).

If this completely nonsense scenario ever happened, I would totally join the Canadian resistance. Or maybe just sabotoge the war effort back at home and conduct guerilla attacks on US troops.
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Old 05-21-2014, 01:02 PM
 
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As many Canadian posters have already mentioned, I don't think this "war" would go over very well with your average American citizen. Mind you, the average American doesn't spend a lot of time thinking about Canada or really any other country at all outside of our little bubbles but Canada is our metaphorical more polite, friendly and internationally beloved little brother. America's awesome hat, if you will. If this hypothetical war ever popped off in real life it would just present a great opportunity for Americans to show how much they actually like Canada by causing as much chaos as possible in our own country until it was brought to an end.
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