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Old 06-13-2018, 08:01 PM
 
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It is much better for the US to focus on their internal market and help their own local producers, instead of sacrificing US-Amercian labor force only because somewhere else it is a little cheaper, while it is also much better for Québec to become more isolated again. More isolation = less globalization = local culture is more preserved = more French & more real Québécois values.
This is true. Free trade has many bad consequences. If I were Quebec, I would also want to keep out crappy American milk and other genetically modified foods.

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I encourage Donald Trump to impose more trade barriers. It's the best, for both his country and Q.
I agree free trade is causing many problems and has many bad consquences. BUT...America is in bad shape not because of Canadian/Japanese/German tariffs. The problems started going back to when Reagan began deregulating everything, commercializing the culture, taking away labor protections, pushing unlimited free trade, building up the military to get involved in harmful wars.

And everyone since Reagan, INCLUDING Clinton AND Obama, have basically continued the same policies. That is the main reason why the US is in such bad shape.

Now Trump is coming along and claiming the US is a big victim of all the other countries, they are taking advantage, boo hoo. Not so. The US has been the most powerful country in the world for decades. Everything that happened to it, it did to itself (9/11 excepted). Including pushing bad free trade policies, that was a big-time American policy goal. Basically every politician in the US agreed on this for 30 years.

Trump is making the real problems worse, while saying others are at a fault. And he's a liar who attacks the free press. Trade does need to be reworked, but Trump is going about it all wrong.
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:46 PM
 
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The complaints about high tariffs have been misleading also. Canada only has that crazy high tariff on a specific type of mile (I think it is finished milk product), they still buy things like raw milk and other dairy. For the German cars, it's only cars that do not have German made parts, which almost all do anyway.

Those may not be the exact specifics (I get tired of looking things up), but it is something like that.
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Old 06-26-2018, 07:32 PM
 
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I thought this was an interesting interview between the previous U.S. ambassador to Canada Bruce Heyman and "Bloomberg Top Line"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMNSQzK883s
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Old 06-27-2018, 07:56 AM
 
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I wasn’t aware of this:

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Trump has decried Canada's sky-high tariffs on dairy imports, including from the U.S. But the Canadian government, under Prime Minister Stephen Harper, had agreed to basically end their dairy protectionism in exchange for the U.S. joining TPP. Once the U.S. bailed, Canada pulled the concession.
https://www.axios.com/trump-tpp-orig...22aadbfeb.html
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Old 06-27-2018, 08:22 AM
 
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Very interesting indeed! Neither was I and nor, I bet, are the majority. As soon as Trump bailed on that, China probably had a back room back-patting, toasting session.


The man is so far out of his "village idiot" area of expertise, he's making himself the wrong village's idiot.
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Old 06-27-2018, 06:55 PM
 
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I remember this. One of the reasons I disliked Harper so much. It would be the end of the dairy industry in Canada.
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Old 06-27-2018, 08:03 PM
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I noticed today that Canada imposed tariffs on Chinese steel.

Does Canada believe in free trade??
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Old 06-27-2018, 08:22 PM
 
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I noticed today that Canada imposed tariffs on Chinese steel.

Does Canada believe in free trade??
Free trade is not a religious belief.

Canada believes in mutually beneficial trade agreements. Even free trade agreements have rules and compromises.

Canada has no free trade agreement with China and many other countries around the orld.
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Old 06-27-2018, 09:11 PM
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Free trade is not a religious belief.

Canada believes in mutually beneficial trade agreements. Even free trade agreements have rules and compromises.

Canada has no free trade agreement with China and many other countries around the orld.
Thanks for the info.

I noticed that President Trump wanted to get rid of ALL tariffs at the G7 meeting....and nobody agreed to it.

So I guess we are back to negotiating "mutually beneficial trade agreements:.
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Old 06-28-2018, 07:15 AM
 
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Thanks for the info.

I noticed that President Trump wanted to get rid of ALL tariffs at the G7 meeting....and nobody agreed to it.

So I guess we are back to negotiating "mutually beneficial trade agreements:.
He was as sincere about that as Kim was about getting rid of his nukes.
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