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Old 10-08-2021, 01:41 PM
 
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Old 10-14-2021, 04:19 PM
 
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You could see that coming when the ears started laying back

When I'd see that with any of ours...time to leave them be

Especially the big part Maine Coon (Solomon) we had. He would latch on with those big bear paws of his and when he bit, he could bring blood quite easily
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Old 10-14-2021, 04:36 PM
 
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I warn the grandkids, "you see the ears pinned back, STOP trying to pet the cat and leave the alone".


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Old 11-09-2021, 02:12 PM
 
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Not a very nice little girl.
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Old 11-12-2021, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Southern New Hampshire
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Honestly, what I find the most troubling about this is that some idiot PARENT (most likely) was FILMING the idiot toddler annoying the cat, instead of actually TEACHING the toddler how to treat a cat.

I don't like the toddler, but, well, she's a toddler. She has to learn how to act, but clearly no one there is teaching her.

And of course I'm wondering if the idiot parent hit the cat right after filming the horrible video.
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Old 11-13-2021, 09:59 AM
 
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Honestly, what I find the most troubling about this is that some idiot PARENT (most likely) was FILMING the idiot toddler annoying the cat, instead of actually TEACHING the toddler how to treat a cat.

I don't like the toddler, but, well, she's a toddler. She has to learn how to act, but clearly no one there is teaching her.

And of course I'm wondering if the idiot parent hit the cat right after filming the horrible video.
Amen to all that. Thanks for taking this a step further.
That anyone would consider this vid amusing is just sick. Where did the kid learn this behavior? Or was she coached? In which case we have a double-sadistic parent/whoever. Bordering on child abuse and bordering on pet abuse for allowing it.

I find the devolving of what passes for humor in our society unfortunate and not a good harbinger of things to come.
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Old 11-17-2021, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Another thing that I think people don't realize, when they let things like this happen...

It's not just a failure in teaching the kid something. It's also teaching the cat. And that is really bad news for the poor cat.

Most of the "aggressive" cats I've ever known, had learned the hard way that humans were blind and deaf to their non-aggressive ways of communication. They tried telling you with their body language, that they really need you to stop doing that thing, but humans don't listen. So if it takes a swat or bite to make the human stop doing the thing, eventually if they learn that it's the only message that gets heard, they just go straight for that. And punishment of it by hitting the cat obviously does nothing but damage your relationship with the cat. Violence is the only language that humans speak is what the cat learns.

That can lead to cats that don't coexist well with humans. That leads to euthanized or abandoned cats. "Why does my cat attack me out of nowhere??" Well gosh, I can't imagine, maybe because you trained them to do that.

My kids were older, not toddlers, when I got Nimbus. My youngest was 11 if I recall. We had a lot of conversations about this, how it doesn't matter if HE doesn't care that the cat is biting and attacking him, it doesn't matter if HE thinks it's fun that they are having, he's training the cat in behaviors that cause problems for everyone. Including the cat.

And we had a whole house policy of respecting the cat's feelings and trying to understand what he was telling us, rather than just letting things escalate. Now, Nimbus does not want to bite people. If someone persists in bothering him, he'll gently mouth a hand and then push the hand away with his paws. He's really good at saying, "Am having spicy cat feelings right now! No pets. Maybe play instead?"
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:08 PM
 
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I don’t think the cat needs teaching. It threw a quick CUT THAT OUT swat at its harrasser, not an unjustified full-on attack (as some dogs do).

The parent must have seen this scenario play out before. She or he is the one who needs training, to train the kid not to pester animals. And, no, by training I don’t mean the parent should swat the kid. Holding her arms back and just telling her should be enough.

But as an unrelated observer, I do think the video is funny in a kid-had-that-coming kind of way. That’s one way for her to learn, if nothing else.
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:17 PM
 
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I don’t think the cat needs teaching. It threw a quick CUT THAT OUT swat at its harrasser, not an unjustified full-on attack (as some dogs do).

The parent must have seen this scenario play out before. She or he is the one who needs training, to train the kid not to pester animals. And, no, by training I don’t mean the parent should swat the kid. Holding her arms back and just telling her should be enough.

But as an unrelated observer, I do think the video is funny in a kid-had-that-coming kind of way. That’s one way for her to learn, if nothing else.
Ditto !
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I don’t think the cat needs teaching. It threw a quick CUT THAT OUT swat at its harrasser, not an unjustified full-on attack (as some dogs do).

The parent must have seen this scenario play out before. She or he is the one who needs training, to train the kid not to pester animals. And, no, by training I don’t mean the parent should swat the kid. Holding her arms back and just telling her should be enough.

But as an unrelated observer, I do think the video is funny in a kid-had-that-coming kind of way. That’s one way for her to learn, if nothing else.
I'm saying that over time, repeated, these encounters train a cat to behave a certain way.

That's why experts say that people should not play wrestle with kittens, encouraging them to attack hands with teeth and claws. Use toys instead. Don't teach a cat that it's normal to bite people.

The kid needs to be taught better, so that the cat does not develop more pervasive behavioral problems over time. And eventually become that cat you hear about that the family "had to get rid of" because it was "attacking the kids, just out of nowhere!"

The incident taken in isolation may be funny, as you say in a "kid had it coming" way...but the bigger picture isn't. I've seen too many instances where something started out funny and ended with an animal being rehomed or put in a shelter or abandoned, when eventually it wasn't funny anymore, it was serious.
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