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Old 07-21-2011, 09:29 AM
 
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:39 AM
 
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The one thing in that article I noticed (if that is the same article) was that when banks foreclose on a home they do not pay HOA dues. Is that always true? If the HOA can foreclose on a homeowner for nonpayment of HOA dues then why can't they foreclose on the bank?
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Wouldn't you like to know?
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Here's the funny thing about the article (or that particular situation).

There must have been some conversations or something behind the scene for the HOA to fine the guy for planting pansies.

For instance, I know of an association and a particular couple who've planted flowers and helped w/the upkeep of the "common area". They've worked w/the people on the HOA and discussed what they wanted to do to help improve the common area...(this was above and beyond what the landscaper were contracted to do....) The HOA said no problem and welcomed the improvements...

My point is, again, there is more to the story than the HOA "blindly fining" the guy for doing this.....
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:39 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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The one thing in that article I noticed (if that is the same article) was that when banks foreclose on a home they do not pay HOA dues. Is that always true? If the HOA can foreclose on a homeowner for nonpayment of HOA dues then why can't they foreclose on the bank?
According to an article I read recently, an HOA has successfully sued a bank for non-payment of HOA fees. If I remember correctly, this occurred in Florida (in a neighborhood w/ lots of bank-owned houses). Sorry - I don't have a citation at the moment. BUt you may be able to find this case by googling for a while.
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Old 07-22-2011, 05:08 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Well, what I have seen in this article (despite my thoughts regarding the despicable behaviour of the HOA) was the promises of reform that appears to be coming out of legislation regarding these types of situations. If there is more regulation surrounding these associations and requirements for fairness & equality, maybe the concept of the HOA would not be quite so distasteful to people like me!
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Old 07-22-2011, 05:38 AM
 
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Whilst I aplaud the clarity that legislation should (note the word should) bring to the HOA sphere, I have a concern over what legislation might do to exixting HOAs. By this I mean that we may see a turn towards companies running HOAs rather than residents.

This is, of course, quite common in condominiums and apartment complexes already but I am quite sure that many HOA management companies would just love to play the "complex legislation" card in order to wrest HOA responsabilities away from the current (sometimes annoying) amateur/resident HOA commitees having a management company running 00s or 000s of HOAs in exactly the same way with no flexibility whatsoever.

Anyway this is just my fear and my 2 cents.
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Old 07-22-2011, 07:40 AM
 
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Banks are respsonsible for paying HOA dues once the take title to the property. They are not responsible for any dues or assessments owed prior to their taking title. For this reason many banks have foreclosed on properties but never taken title to them so the properties remain in limbo in terms of ownership.
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:08 AM
 
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Apart from HOA debts, what other debts could be present when buying a forclosure property from either a bank ot Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac?

I am currently looking at a couple and don't want to buy and then suddenly find that I'm now liable for someone else's debt.
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Union County, NC
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Apart from HOA debts, what other debts could be present when buying a forclosure property from either a bank ot Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac?

I am currently looking at a couple and don't want to buy and then suddenly find that I'm now liable for someone else's debt.
Wouldn't title insurance protect you from such?
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:50 PM
 
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Wouldn't title insurance protect you from such?
I'd have thought so but,

1). I do not like those kind of surpeises

2). Insurance company generosity does not fill me with hope and glee. I wonder why?
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