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Hot Dogs are cheap food, not $7 creations, just IMHO obviously.
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You can make the same argument for BBQ or other type of "cheap" cuts/meat. For me and many others, they would pay a little more for a fried dog all the way.
Its not out of the possibility for him to succeed..
You can make the same argument for BBQ or other type of "cheap" cuts/meat..... .
I don't think you can if you are going to be selling in a Southern environment. Natives will pay good money for good BBQ. They won't pay good money for a "good" hotdog whatever that might be. Pulled pork BBQ here isn't from a cheap cut of meat and it takes a lot of labor to make to create the hickory smoke and to cook the pork properly to make the good stuff. This is one of the reasons that you don't see many BBQ houses in Charlotte.
Once and for all, are we talking about sausage and pepper hero sandwiches? I have no idea what an Italian hot dog is and have never heard the term in 30 years in and around NYC and Bergen County. Grew up in a prodomintantly Italian neighborhood. I'm completely baffled.
All right. I have to eat crow. I remember a place in Little Ferry we used to go to pretty often called Callahan's. i googles it. It's still there and the menu is posted. And guess what's on it? You guess it. italian hot dogs, complete with a photo! I just never heard them called that! If you can open a place with food as good as Callahan's, you'll be fine. I would take a serious look into available distributers though.
Um location, location, location. If you plan well, you can open in 2010 and it will start off slow, but it's all about brining people back. I would not go to Southpark, differnt crowd. I would try near an office or a commuter area.
If something like this opened in Ballantyne, I'd eat there at least three times a week. There is nothing, nothing, nothing but chains down here (with the exception of Villa Antonio's which I can't justify/afford more than once or twice a month). There are literally hundreds of office workers in the campus where I work. Most of the people who sit on my floor bring their lunch to work with them because there's nothing nearby.
We moved to Charlotte form NJ 3 years ago and always said there wasn't any italian hotdog or italian sausage sandwich places and with all the people from up north in the charlotte area we decided to look onto opening one in Charlotte and i figured i would post a thread about it and see what feedback i got.
And if your from up north you have heard of Jimmy Buffs "the buffer", Rutts hut "the ripper", Joe Joe's etc.
So let us know what you think...Thanks
If you can make a dog like Jimmy B's in Irvington or Scotch Plains, I'll be there.
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I don't think you can if you are going to be selling in a Southern environment. Natives will pay good money for good BBQ. They won't pay good money for a "good" hotdog whatever that might be. Pulled pork BBQ here isn't from a cheap cut of meat and it takes a lot of labor to make to create the hickory smoke and to cook the pork properly to make the good stuff. This is one of the reasons that you don't see many BBQ houses in Charlotte.
lumbollo, as I've said, you & mullman make very valid points. If the OP can find the perfect place, with enough folks from Bergen County & the immediate area, he could do well. However, it would seem to me that the odds of success would be greatly increased by adding items that would draw in other people.
The Italian sausage sandwiches are sold in the Philly area, but other items are more popular there. As I've said, the food in Philly & South Jersey includes plenty of Italian items, but it is also more MidAtlantic & has more in common with Baltimore, DC, & Richmond. Also, barbeque gets much more popular from Philly south, so that might be something that he should look at adding, since it would appeal to natives, here, as well.
There used to be a lot of open pit barbeque places in South Jersey, but many either closed or were driven out to more rural areas in recent years, because of tax increases.
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