Affordable luxury living that allows pets near Loop? (Lincoln, Irving: rental, neighborhood)

[tonythetuna]

Originally Posted by eevee

strap a leash on the dog and take it for a walk down the sidewalks, along the lake front, etc. it may have to be a very long walk for a truly active dog (or even a jog), but it can be done. dogs don't need to walk on grass to get exercise, they can get the same exercise walking on pavement. trust me, there are people who own large dogs in the concrete jungles of NYC and I've walked quite a few big dogs (border collies, Irish wolfhounds, more than a handful of labs and retrievers) through areas in Boston w/ even less green space than the above areas. of course, it takes more commitment than just opening the back door and tossing the dog out into a yard

I detest people that let their dogs crap on the streets,sidewalks,and other public areas. Half of these people don't clean it up. The main reason everyone that has a dog should have a yard is to keep the dog crap out of public areas.

Do you know what salt does to dog's paws?

[Jandur]

Originally Posted by tonythetuna

I detest people that let their dogs crap on the streets,sidewalks,and other public areas. Half of these people don't clean it up. The main reason everyone that has a dog should have a yard is to keep the dog crap out of public areas.

Do you know what salt does to dog's paws?

Don't you have anything better to do?

[tonythetuna]

Originally Posted by Jandur

Don't you have anything better to do?

Like ignoring you harassing me? Yeah.

[eevee]

Originally Posted by tonythetuna

I detest people that let their dogs crap on the streets,sidewalks,and other public areas. Half of these people don't clean it up. The main reason everyone that has a dog should have a yard is to keep the dog crap out of public areas.

Do you know what salt does to dog's paws?

thing is w/ a yard is that plenty of lazy owners will just open the back door and leave the dog out there alone. this is undesirable for many reasons:

-puts the dog at risk for theft
-can create a noise nuisance for neighbors
-the dog can get in hurt when not supervised
-over time, the dog can become very territorial about the yard. this could possibly cause an issue whee the dog attacks anyone stepping into the yard, aka its territory. hence why "junkyard" dogs and dogs left tied up outside are so dangerous.
-there's no guarantee the dog will adequately exercise itself in the yard, meaning, once it comes back inside, it can still be overly energetic and destructive.
-the dog gets little interaction w/ the owner. most people w/ yards aren't out there for an hour at a time playing fetch w/ the dog. they just leave the pup out there to amuse itself.

without the yard, owners must actually *gasp* go out with their dog and at least hold the other end of the leash. an owner you talks their dog out for walks, takes them to dog parks, jogs w/ them, etc, is interacting more w/ their pet than those owners w/ yards that just leave the dog out there

as for your concerns

-there are such things as dog booties. they've been around for quite some time. there's also pet safe salt that some people use outside their own buildings/homes
-people not picking up after their dogs has little to do w/ your assertion that keeping a dog in an apartment w/o a yard is "torture". people not following the ordinance has NOTHING to do w/ whether one should own a dog if they don't have a yard. dogs are going to be in public places-deal w/ it.

[tonythetuna]

Originally Posted by eevee

dogs are going to be in public places-deal w/ it.

I don't have to. Any bar or restaurant that allows dogs will not get my business. There are plenty of people that are fed up with this crap. ( pun intended )

Originally Posted by eevee

people not following the ordinance has NOTHING to do w/ whether one should own a dog if they don't have a yard.

There should be an ordinance against owning a dog if one lives in apartment without a dog area or yard. That should cut down on the nasty dog owners that don't pick up after their pets in public. Disgusting.

Nothing you say to attempt to rationalize your view will change mine. So let's drop the subject.

[Jandur]

Originally Posted by tonythetuna

Like ignoring you harassing me? Yeah.

Not harassing, just asking a legitimate question

[tonythetuna]

Originally Posted by Jandur

Not harassing, just asking a legitimate question

Just so you know, I have been shoveling fricken snow on and off for several hours.

[eevee]

Originally Posted by tonythetuna

I don't have to. Any bar or restaurant that allows dogs will not get my business. There are plenty of people that are fed up with this crap. ( pun intended )



There should be an ordinance against owning a dog if one lives in apartment without a dog area or yard. That should cut down on the nasty dog owners that don't pick up after their pets in public. Disgusting.

Nothing you say to attempt to rationalize your view will change mine. So let's drop the subject.

will, that's your opinion (thankfully, in the minority). just saying your opinion

A) doesn't help the OP
B) is wrong, as far as the idea that owning a dog in an apartment is "torture"

[chicagojlo]

Slightly off topic but this thread reminds me of the bodybuilding neighbor I had at my old Loop highrise who often got stuck having to walk his girlfriends teeny tiny fluffy dog. He rarely looked happy about it!

[manchesterUnited]

I would consider new eastside. If you go with one of the cheaper building like the Shoreham you can probably get a 1 bedroom for 1500ish (after a month free for a new lease). They allow dogs in most of the buildings in the neighborhood and you're on a decent sized park, including a dog run.