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Old 08-21-2013, 07:34 PM
 
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Of course to you anything over a million for an entire CSA isn't small. To people from big cities, tis not the case. We've had better trolls than you. 2/10. Would not be trolled by again.
I believe that is what the kids once called a burn.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:50 PM
 
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Oh, I think I saw that on nick at nite. I'm an 80s guy so before my time.

You mean you were born in the 80's?


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By 2020 there will be over 4 million in the csa so I guess if you want to call that small. To me anything over a million is not small. Anything over 10 million is huge and places like LA and NYC, there just ridiculous.
What do CSA's have to do with city municipal crime rates? The vast majority of the Chicago metro area is very safe on par with any other metro area in the country. It is large sections of the West and Southside's of the city that are war zones.


Plus CSA's are extremely large areas. A better way to judge a city's size is using the urbanized area




Minneapolis is way down the list in terms of urbanized areas



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You were comparing crime data between cities, not CSAs. The city has 380,000. You don't get to use the crime numbers for the city and the projected population for the CSA that is 10 times greater than the city. It's funny that you say statistics don't tell the whole story. For you they don't, because you don't know how to do them right.
Exactly.
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:55 PM
 
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Urban area Chicago 8.7 million Minneapolis 2.9 million 2012 estimates in wiki and there are links for those.. Chicago 3 times the size. If Chicago can gain 1.3 million or so in the urban area by 2025 I will be blown away. It's taken Chicago 40 years to gain 1.8 million in its metro sense 1970.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:02 PM
 
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Must be another boring night in Minneapolis.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Urban area Chicago 8.7 million Minneapolis 2.9 million 2012 estimates in wiki and there are links for those.. Chicago 3 times the size. If Chicago can gain 1.3 million or so in the urban area by 2025 I will be blown away. It's taken Chicago 40 years to gain 1.8 million in its metro sense 1970.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:19 PM
 
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Why would I be mad? Come on now. Anyway I would be truly surprised to see Chicago gain 1.3 million people in the urban area in 12 years. That would be awesome. I don't see it happening but I could be wrong.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:39 PM
 
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^^

You are wrong....

Urbanized areas grow not only from a growing population, but also because formally separate urban areas within an MSA or CSA or adjacent MSA's and CSA's that become part of the larger urbanized area. AKA sprawl. We have a rep to protect


Wiki also has urban areas updated to 2013. Chicago is listed at #34 with 9.1 million. Minneapolis is listed at #157 with 2.7 million.

List of urban areas by population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:49 PM
 
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^^

You are wrong....

Urbanized areas grow not only from a growing population, but also because formally separate urban areas within an MSA or CSA or adjacent MSA's and CSA's that become part of the larger urbanized area. AKA sprawl. We have a rep to protect


Wiki also has urban areas updated to 2013. Chicago is listed at #34 with 9.1 million. Minneapolis is listed at #157 with 2.7 million.

List of urban areas by population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You may be right. 1,000,000 addition to urban area in 12 years. Maybe more. I'm not sure where this thread is going anymore. Or maybe you want to prove that Minneapolis is small. Or what. Anyway if you really believe that Chicago is in great shape than that's good I guess.

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Old 08-21-2013, 09:59 PM
 
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Don't forget that the measurement of what defines an "urbanized area" is usually based on a population per sq mile. As the outlying areas of Chicagoland densify, that would also enlarge the urbanized area of Chicago.

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An urbanized area (UA) is a densely settled core of census tracts
and/or census blocks that have population of at least 50,000, along with
adjacent territory containing non-residential urban land uses as well as
territory with low population density included to link outlying densely
settled territory with the densely settled core. It is a calculation used by
the Bureau of the Census to determine the geographic boundaries of the
most heavily developed and dense urban areas.
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:17 PM
 
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Don't forget that the measurement of what defines an "urbanized area" is usually based on a population per sq mile. As the outlying areas of Chicagoland densify, that would also enlarge the urbanized area of Chicago.

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Talk to you tomorrow. Got to get up early.

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